Op Ed [Jul 23, 2014, 09:14 am ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
Polygon - No skin thick enough- The daily harassment of women in the game industry.
The problem with sharing these stories in broad terms is that people think men and women receive the same harassment online. They do not. I’m not writing this piece to evoke your sympathy. I’m writing to share with you what prominent, successful women in the industry experience, in their own words.Rock, Paper, Shotgun - Game Names Are Almost Universally Terrible.
Seriously it’s not that hard why are you all so bad at this aauuugh.
jdreyer wrote on Jul 24, 2014, 05:30:
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You didn't even read the article, did you. How can you say she's OVERstating the case? She's describing ACTUAL events that happened to her and others. How is that OVERstating?
If you think they're making the problem bigger than it seems, starting today let's take 23% of your salary and give it to a woman at your work that does the same job as you. You'd be FINE with that right? You'd not complain, or tweet, or write blog posts, or anything, right? Because that would be making the issue bigger than it seems, RIGHT?
I see, you support gender equality articles, but just not THIS article, with all of it's truth and personal experience. You'd prefer polite, mealy-mouthed, watered down articles that don't effect your sensibilities or challenge your assumptions, because that's what has always worked in civil rights issues like this: politeness and asking nicely. Seriously, what fucking planet are you from?
Nice, Brianna is a radfem, because she's been verbally accosted and threatened by internet sexists and had the balls to write about it. Yup, she should have just kept her mouth shut. And stayed in the kitchen.
Look, I get it. You want nuance, subtlety, reasoned debate. Well, let me welcome you to the real world. That's not what works. What works is in-your-face smashing of biases and forcing change on people. No one gives up power willingly, and the white males that rule this planet hold so much more power than everyone else. That you're in that cohort and defending it makes perfect sense, but realize it for what it is: you are the oppressor, the ruling class, the dictator, and the masses are rising to take your power. You can either choose to recognize your position and share power willingly, or you can have it taken from you like a screaming child. It's your choice.
Firstly, I think I failed to differentiate my critique of this article in particular with my critique of the general attitude I see out there. You are right that this specific article is not a particularly strong example of radical ideology, exaggeration, or appropriating someone else's much more serious cause to lend weight to their own. Especially by Polygon standards who are kings of clickbait. But those issues are pervasive and counter-productive.
Another thing you were right about: politeness and asking nicely doesn't accomplish anything when it comes to equality issues. Charismatic leaders who are able to sway opinions and get people to introspect and question their own beliefs do. Clickbait articles and strawman comments that make people want to give you the Oberyn Martell makeover aren't particularly inspiring or introspective. People just stop listening.
The flavor of feminism that is prevalent on the Internet today straight up isn't working. The Internet is more toxic for women than it has ever been, and like I said, people are becoming polarized instead of working together to find solutions.
Unless you're willing to take up arms and start killing people, your only way to affect change is to convince people you are right. If they aren't listening, they can't be convinced. The goal is to convert, not alienate. You can't avoid alienating the extremists at either end of the spectrum, but you want to swing those folks in the middle, not piss them off.
Do you really think preaching to the choir is the way to get things changed?
Thou art an artless, greasy tallow-catch.
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