My favorite BF is Bad Company 2. Not that BF2 wasn't freaking awesome at the time. If you go back and play it now, it doesn't hold up so well.

Fantaz wrote on May 29, 2014, 03:00:
need to run Origin in a sandbox to get this game. dont want EA's malware to search my computer and stuff.

The NSA already knows about your gay porn, don't sweat it.

So is the game still bug riddled and has it been abandoned by DICE?? More importantly is anyone still playing this??

The Half Elf wrote on May 28, 2014, 21:19:
I still believe BF3 was the pinnacle of the BF series (with 2142 a close second).
But all this butthurt over Origin is rather tedious. If anything it's as 'evil' as Steam, and less intrusive then Uplay.

I also think BF3 was the best.....well....if you leave out DC....byt damn BF2 was damn good.....

need to run Origin in a sandbox to get this game. dont want EA's malware to search my computer and stuff.

Thanks Blue!

noman wrote on May 29, 2014, 00:27:
Origin ... gives more options to manage your Origin purchased game.

No it doesn't. You can't make backups of Origin games. You can't port Origin games from one computer to another, except in some rare few cases where you then have to fuck around with the installer files and sometimes even kludge the registry.

With Steam, I download games at my work's 200Mbps pipe, make a backup, put them on a USB key, take them home, import them into Steam, and I'm playing. With Origin? Have fun re-downloading the game on every PC you want to play it on.

Its offline play is better.

In what way? I will admit that it took Valve around eight fucking years to finally fix offline mode, but it IS fixed now.

Its handling of simultaneous logins from multiple PCs (for playing different games) is better.

As far as I know, both clients simply log you out of currently logged-in systems when you log in to a new PC.

It's a far thinner client as well compared to Steam.

That's simply not true. I have two screenshots here of Steam vs Origin in the task manager. (trying to figure out where to upload them to without having to create a new account...) Steam at 30MB, Origin at 100MB. They later both dropped a little. Origin went to 96MB, and Steam went to 11MB.

Steam beats Origin only in terms of the quantity of excellent sales.

Yeah it's not as if Steam now offers streaming, or a big picture mode, or an integrated screenshots manager, or a trading card system, etc.

Look, there is nothing inherently WRONG with Origin. It works. It works FAR better than Uplay. But please stop pretending like it's somehow the king of the digital store world, because that's just nonsense. It's a typical EA undertaking: kinda half-assed.

All that said, offering free games is cool, and they deserve kudos for it.

Origin is far preferable to Steam, if all you want to do is buy games from a store and play the game. However if you are fully invested in having Steam achievements, gaining points, and taking pride in watching your gaming library grow at one particular store then it may be different. Or you may be the ones believing that Origin scans your PC files and folders based on some idiotic articles written by wanna-be tech experts.

Origin is a far more light weight DRM than Steam, and gives more options to manage your Origin purchased game. Its offline play is better. Its handling of simultaneous logins from multiple PCs (for playing different games) is better. It's a far thinner client as well compared to Steam.

Steam beats Origin only in terms of the quantity of excellent sales. Then again, Origin now offers free games from time to time, which came out only 2-3 years ago.

GoG beats them all though.

Devil's Advocate time....

Except for the whole voted Worst Company in America 2x

Stupidest thing ever...when it was in the same company as banks and oil conglomerates actually causing harm.

DRM problems with games

I've heard a lot of this, but within my many groups of people that I belong to, not a single one of them has had any real issue outside of day 1 bullshit that happens to every game, including Steamworks titles.

threatening to ban people for disputing charges after failing to deliver a product paid for

I've done this no less than 10 times over the years, each time I've never had an issue with getting a refund with any of EA's products. I guess I must be lucky enough to get those unicorn-level people when I call.

refusing refunds for a broken product

See above...albeit, again as devil's advocate, your idea of a broken product may not jive with reality.

banning people from their games for forums posts

This is pretty funny to read, I've seen people go on mass tirades on EA's various forums and not one of them has been banned in any of the games they posted to. That said, EA has the right to do this if they so desire, as does every place of business has the right to refuse access.

the Battlefield release fiasco

You know, sans the day 1 bullshit of overloaded servers and what-not, I had no real issues with the BF series over the last decade. Of course, any time you rely on a shitton of server backend it will fuck up.

EA is a terrible company that treats their customers poorly. I choose not to be one of those customers for good reason.

Funny though, Valve doesn't do refunds on games sold on Steam unless there has been some form of misrepresentation, and even then it's like pulling teeth to get anything out of it. EA, on the other hand, allows you pretty much to play the game to completion and then return it for a full refund via Origin.

As I opened, this is all devil's advocate things...I don't like EA's business practices overall in terms of management ruling the roost, but don't toss out shit in hopes it'll stick when could just as easily find an equal number of other companies out there that are beloved doing the exact same things.

D R A M A T I C !

The Half Elf wrote on May 28, 2014, 21:19:
I still believe BF3 was the pinnacle of the BF series (with 2142 a close second).
But all this butthurt over Origin is rather tedious. If anything it's as 'evil' as Steam, and less intrusive then Uplay.

Except for the whole voted Worst Company in America 2x, DRM problems with games, threatening to ban people for disputing charges after failing to deliver a product paid for, refusing refunds for a broken product, banning people from their games for forums posts, the Battlefield release fiasco, well, the list of how they treat their customers with no respect whatsoever goes on and on. We can try and play the game that just because Steam is a DRM system and Origin is too, that they are equal, but it's like saying a Ferrari is equal to a Pinto because they are both cars. EA is a terrible company that treats their customers poorly. I choose not to be one of those customers for good reason.

My problem is not with BF or Origin as much as the fact its EA. Never again.

While Steam is a million times better than Origin, Origin is not THAT bad. It has never got in my way to play a game, never caused me any grief at all and I'm not going to miss out on a game I want to play over something stupid as a blind hatred for something that's really not that bad in the first place.

Whatever.

I still believe BF3 was the pinnacle of the BF series (with 2142 a close second).
But all this butthurt over Origin is rather tedious. If anything it's as 'evil' as Steam, and less intrusive then Uplay.

Ooh, for free but Origin. I will get it on my test PC. Maybe one day I will use its Origin or never!

That's pretty cool I guess but even for free I just have no interest in an unmoddable multiplayer shooter with no bots or co-op.

Already got it the LAST time it was free.

Wallshadows wrote on May 28, 2014, 19:35:
Apparently, I can still boycott a company even when they offer free things!

Now I know.

And knowing is half the battle! Yo Joe!

Saboth wrote on May 28, 2014, 19:15:
Hmmm just install Origin to get a free game....nope, not even for free.

Marksmanship 100

You just nailed it on the head.

Apparently, I can still boycott a company even when they offer free things!

Now I know.