Played for a bit today. Didn't know anything about the game, just saw it was free and jumped in. Went up against people with nades, a ton of gear, took 6-7 shots to take em down while I was 1 and done. Very Pay to Win - no question about it. I had a 7 kill streak by prone-ing and taking them out as they ran around the corner. In fact, being a better than average FPS player helped me get 2nd or 3rd every time......

I dunno. It is really floaty, weapons suck, controls are off, and just all around feels thrown together without a bunch of thought. I will try it out a bit more, but I guess it just doesn't feel all that good. Took almost 30 minutes for 1 match. Way to long for my ADD.

Really enjoyed this up until the 'noob' matchmaking ended, but they supposely smoothed that out considerably. Haven't tried it in a long while, but it was really fun while I was put up against fair and similar-ranked players.

Alternatively, if you're looking for some good third-person gaming in an F2P, then try Warframe. It's ninjas in space, but it's co-op centered and there's no P2W, because there's nothing to win. It's Pay-2-Convenience. And even then, the farming is fun and not drawn out. Just got a major update too.

jdreyer wrote on Apr 10, 2014, 16:18:
So the original Ghost Recon games (IIRC) were single player or coop campaign style games. This is multiplayer only? Again, a trailer which doesn't describe what kind of game this is at all. Good advertising there.

if it's the same game as ghost recon online, then yeah, multiplayer only. every now and then i need a quick action fix, and this was it for awhile. i got really good at it until i ran into a couple uber geared up snipers, and then my whole team was just pinned in a tunnel. i even resorted to letting them kill my teammates, then i'd pop out and kill one. but one of them would eventually get me. then i quit the game.

Gave it a run for about an hour. It's crap and has none of that ghost recon tactical feel.

Parias wrote on Apr 10, 2014, 15:09:

LittleMe wrote on Apr 10, 2014, 15:03:
Why not just play a CoD or CS game instead? Because this is free?

Because multiplayer-wise, those are "twitch" games and I sometimes prefer something a bit slower-paced with a bit of strategy to it. Not every game out there has to be exactly the same as CoD / CS to be fun.

That's the thing - it does look just like a twitch shooter ala CoD or CS. So why are you imply it's different and slower paced with more strategy? I see no strategy.

From wiki -

Strategy is a high level plan to achieve one or more goals under conditions of uncertainty.

I was in the beta when it was GRO and couldn't stand it. It's semi tactical, but still very twitchy. I found the biggest problem was because of the 3rd person view, you could see someone while you were hiding and they were standing, then align your mouse, pop up to shoot and drop before they had a chance to react.
Made for a lot of camp fests

jdreyer wrote on Apr 10, 2014, 16:18:
So the original Ghost Recon games (IIRC) were single player or coop campaign style games. This is multiplayer only? Again, a trailer which doesn't describe what kind of game this is at all. Good advertising there.

This confuses me as well. Does it actually have some kind of co-operative mission-oriented gameplay, or is this strictly competitive?

So the original Ghost Recon games (IIRC) were single player or coop campaign style games. This is multiplayer only? Again, a trailer which doesn't describe what kind of game this is at all. Good advertising there.

I like it, and haven't spent a dime on it. I can definitely see where it's "Pay2Win" though due to the way they've restructured the gear ranking, but ya know... I'm still in my default gear (except for a couple Rank 2 or 3 pieces I got from a reward box) and maybe it takes me two shots instead of one to kill someone. Whatever. It's a fun, tactical slower-paced game and while I've heard the "kiddie" horror stories I've never actually encountered any. Most of the players I end up teamed with are adults and pretty mature so I don't mind being on voice chat with strangers in this game. So far.

Insurgency is a pretty good tactical FPS also that isn't a twitch shooter.

LittleMe wrote on Apr 10, 2014, 15:03:
Why not just play a CoD or CS game instead? Because this is free?

Because multiplayer-wise, those are "twitch" games and I sometimes prefer something a bit slower-paced with a bit of strategy to it. Not every game out there has to be exactly the same as CoD / CS to be fun.

But by the sounds of things, the "Pay 2 Win" model makes this terrible so I'll probably skip it.

Why not just play a CoD or CS game instead? Because this is free?

Whiskers wrote on Apr 10, 2014, 14:26:
Sadly it's heavily Pay to Win. Great team based shooter underneath all the Pay to Win garbage, but unless you want to invest a couple Benjamins you're gonna get steamrolled by veteran and pay to win players almost every time.

Thanks.

Sadly it's heavily Pay to Win. Great team based shooter underneath all the Pay to Win garbage, but unless you want to invest a couple Benjamins you're gonna get steamrolled by veteran and pay to win players almost every time.

Free to Play = Pay to Win in this game?