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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 28, 2014, 03:59
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 28, 2014, 03:59
Mar 28, 2014, 03:59
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Julio wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 06:15:
Frijoles wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 01:52:
Beamer wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 01:16:
He's now a 21 year old billionaire. (well, not quite, but likely very, very close.) I can't hate him too much for that.

I'd do the same thing for that much money. Maybe even buy Blues just to piss you all off.

Probably what Facebook has planned next to kill off
Don't do it Blue, don't take the $2 billion
"Just do it." (Blue) --Nike. Be rich!
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 13:30
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 13:30
Mar 27, 2014, 13:30
 
Beamer wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 13:07:
Creston wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 12:58:
And can I just say, holy crap for that 3d printed skull. I can't even fathom what such an operation entails. I guess cutting away half of the skull, putting half the 3D printed on in place, and then repeating?

23 hours of surgery... incredible.
The video actually shows the her skulless head.

I don't watch surgery videos. That shit makes me queasy.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 13:07
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 13:07
Mar 27, 2014, 13:07
 
Creston wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 12:58:
And can I just say, holy crap for that 3d printed skull. I can't even fathom what such an operation entails. I guess cutting away half of the skull, putting half the 3D printed on in place, and then repeating?

23 hours of surgery... incredible.
The video actually shows the her skulless head.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 12:58
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 12:58
Mar 27, 2014, 12:58
 
And can I just say, holy crap for that 3d printed skull. I can't even fathom what such an operation entails. I guess cutting away half of the skull, putting half the 3D printed on in place, and then repeating?

23 hours of surgery... incredible.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 12:55
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 12:55
Mar 27, 2014, 12:55
 
HorrorScope wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 12:29:
Or treat it as a lesson as what can happen with kick starting.

If some small outfit is pitching something and if it hits it big, expect a company to buy them out.

I don't have that much of an issue with them being bought out. As others have pointed out, shit, few people would say no to 2 billion dollars. I do have an issue with them selling out before they actually delivered a finished product to their backers.

And, obviously, I have a problem with the shitheap that bought them.

In any case, there are large amounts of people pissed over it, and many of those will probably unjustly use that as a smear against Kickstarter, and that REALLY pisses me off.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 12:53
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 12:53
Mar 27, 2014, 12:53
 
Beamer wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 01:16:
Creston wrote on Mar 26, 2014, 22:52:
Thanks for putting a huge dent into KS confidence, Palmer, you fucking tool.

Maybe you can laugh at it while sipping tea with Mark Zuckerberg.

He's now a 21 year old billionaire. (well, not quite, but likely very, very close.)
I can't hate him too much for that.

I mean, I hate him for being a 21 year old billionaire, but that's neither here nor there.

Maybe he'll buy the Cubs and make them a respectable team again.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 12:29
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 12:29
Mar 27, 2014, 12:29
 
Creston wrote on Mar 26, 2014, 22:52:
Thanks for putting a huge dent into KS confidence, Palmer, you fucking tool.

Maybe you can laugh at it while sipping tea with Mark Zuckerberg.

Or treat it as a lesson as what can happen with kick starting.

If some small outfit is pitching something and if it hits it big, expect a company to buy them out.

Why? Because if you assume that, you'll be going in with the correct assumptions.

Everyone is still learning all the ins and outs of KS.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 10:27
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 10:27
Mar 27, 2014, 10:27
 
Jamil20 wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 09:27:
Numinar wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 07:54:
Anyone of you could seriously not accept 2B for this? It would be borderline negligent to your family, employees and partners not to.

If you are so rich that you could get ethical about such a sum, I could use a few thousand. Most of this complaining is jealously/I want a piece of it/FB is the devil!

Also, DK1 and DK2 are what the kickstarter promised and delivered. That the golden independant little guy driven VR future they felt they were supporting isn't happening the way they wanted, that was never guaranteed anyway.

You make it sounds like Oculus was struggling. They had millions in the bank. The Oculus Rift was going to be successful. It had already acheived success with the development kit. It was a sure thing. There was no need to sell to a corporation other than pure greed and an easy way out. Also, they sold out cheap. Very cheap. Less than a stupid instant messenger cheap.

oh good, another angry nerd with no clue what he's talking about.

hint: there is no chance an easily replicated vr set is ever worth as much as whatsapp. All the derogatory comments being made here just demonstrate how clueless some people are, yet they still spout an ignorant opinion without bothering to read an article or analysis that may inform them.

there are wide flaws in your entire post. Yes, they had millions. The company. Now the employees do. And you call it greed... They were a business not a charity.

nothing worse than ignorant, entitled pc-master-race dumbasses.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 09:27
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 09:27
Mar 27, 2014, 09:27
 
Numinar wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 07:54:
Anyone of you could seriously not accept 2B for this? It would be borderline negligent to your family, employees and partners not to.

If you are so rich that you could get ethical about such a sum, I could use a few thousand. Most of this complaining is jealously/I want a piece of it/FB is the devil!

Also, DK1 and DK2 are what the kickstarter promised and delivered. That the golden independant little guy driven VR future they felt they were supporting isn't happening the way they wanted, that was never guaranteed anyway.

You make it sounds like Oculus was struggling. They had millions in the bank. The Oculus Rift was going to be successful. It had already acheived success with the development kit. It was a sure thing. There was no need to sell to a corporation other than pure greed and an easy way out. Also, they sold out cheap. Very cheap. Less than a stupid instant messenger cheap.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 09:15
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 09:15
Mar 27, 2014, 09:15
 
Whiskers wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 06:42:
Julio wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 06:15:
Frijoles wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 01:52:
Beamer wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 01:16:
He's now a 21 year old billionaire. (well, not quite, but likely very, very close.) I can't hate him too much for that.

I'd do the same thing for that much money. Maybe even buy Blues just to piss you all off.

Probably what Facebook has planned next to kill off
Don't do it Blue, don't take the $2 billion

I would visit Billion Dollar Blues News

The first thing they'd do once buying Blues is ban us all, for being constantly moaning about every little thing and being generally annoying to game developers whenever we want ,p

I do hope though that blues will have a long and healthy life still ahead of him... Because I can't get over my day without bluesnews... and hey, Blues got only himself to blame for addicting us to this great site, which is still superior to all other news sites for games
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 08:45
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 08:45
Mar 27, 2014, 08:45
 
The serious value was yet to come, they may well have been had.

“The problem with the Internet startup craze isn’t that too many people are starting companies; it’s that too many people aren’t sticking with it. That’s somewhat understandable, because there are many moments that are filled with despair and agony, when you have to fire people and cancel things and deal with very difficult situations. That’s when you find out who you are and what your values are. So when these people sell out, even though they get fabulously rich, they’re gypping themselves out of one of the potentially most rewarding experiences of their unfolding lives. Without it, they may never know their values or how to keep their newfound wealth in perspective.”

- Steve Jobs


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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 07:54
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 07:54
Mar 27, 2014, 07:54
 
Anyone of you could seriously not accept 2B for this? It would be borderline negligent to your family, employees and partners not to.

If you are so rich that you could get ethical about such a sum, I could use a few thousand. Most of this complaining is jealously/I want a piece of it/FB is the devil!

Also, DK1 and DK2 are what the kickstarter promised and delivered. That the golden independant little guy driven VR future they felt they were supporting isn't happening the way they wanted, that was never guaranteed anyway.

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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 06:42
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 06:42
Mar 27, 2014, 06:42
 
Julio wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 06:15:
Frijoles wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 01:52:
Beamer wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 01:16:
He's now a 21 year old billionaire. (well, not quite, but likely very, very close.) I can't hate him too much for that.

I'd do the same thing for that much money. Maybe even buy Blues just to piss you all off.

Probably what Facebook has planned next to kill off
Don't do it Blue, don't take the $2 billion

I would visit Billion Dollar Blues News
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 06:15
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 06:15
Mar 27, 2014, 06:15
 
Frijoles wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 01:52:
Beamer wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 01:16:
He's now a 21 year old billionaire. (well, not quite, but likely very, very close.) I can't hate him too much for that.

I'd do the same thing for that much money. Maybe even buy Blues just to piss you all off.

Probably what Facebook has planned next to kill off
Don't do it Blue, don't take the $2 billion
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 01:52
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 01:52
Mar 27, 2014, 01:52
 
Beamer wrote on Mar 27, 2014, 01:16:
He's now a 21 year old billionaire. (well, not quite, but likely very, very close.) I can't hate him too much for that.

I'd do the same thing for that much money. Maybe even buy Blues just to piss you all off.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 01:16
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 01:16
Mar 27, 2014, 01:16
 
Creston wrote on Mar 26, 2014, 22:52:
Thanks for putting a huge dent into KS confidence, Palmer, you fucking tool.

Maybe you can laugh at it while sipping tea with Mark Zuckerberg.

He's now a 21 year old billionaire. (well, not quite, but likely very, very close.)
I can't hate him too much for that.

I mean, I hate him for being a 21 year old billionaire, but that's neither here nor there.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 27, 2014, 00:33
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 27, 2014, 00:33
Mar 27, 2014, 00:33
 
killer_roach wrote on Mar 26, 2014, 23:14:
Cutter wrote on Mar 26, 2014, 22:31:
You can understand why they're pissed. However so long as OR abides by the original deal that, as they say, is that. Regardless this is the sort of shit that's only going to help contribute to the demise of crowdfunding. Either that or the model has to change and these guys will have to sell shares instead.


The problem is that selling equity in a Kickstarter-like manner is basically impossible due to American and European securities law - the only people allowed in at such a low level are "qualified investors" - usually very high net worth individuals who can demonstrate the ability to absorb the risks they are taking. I still think direct sales of equity are ultimately the way to go, however.

For those that backed the Rift - maybe, if you ask real nicely, you can get yours to come in a nice shade of Facebook blue... but much beyond that I wouldn't hold my breath on.

That's easily changed. This is the idea of the stock market to begin with, right? Companies trying to raise capital and if they do well, pay a return on that investment. They could treat it like penny stocks seeing the as the buy in's on these are well below what a qualified investor would dabble with anyway.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 26, 2014, 23:46
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 26, 2014, 23:46
Mar 26, 2014, 23:46
 
Can't help but think the Oculus is going to die a slow death. I know quite a few people who'd wonder what the catch is if they knew Facebook owned the company selling them the hardware...and I definitely would as well.

So essentially, the guy got backed and then killed (profitably for himself) the product less than two years later.

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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 26, 2014, 23:14
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 26, 2014, 23:14
Mar 26, 2014, 23:14
 
Cutter wrote on Mar 26, 2014, 22:31:
You can understand why they're pissed. However so long as OR abides by the original deal that, as they say, is that. Regardless this is the sort of shit that's only going to help contribute to the demise of crowdfunding. Either that or the model has to change and these guys will have to sell shares instead.


The problem is that selling equity in a Kickstarter-like manner is basically impossible due to American and European securities law - the only people allowed in at such a low level are "qualified investors" - usually very high net worth individuals who can demonstrate the ability to absorb the risks they are taking. I still think direct sales of equity are ultimately the way to go, however.

For those that backed the Rift - maybe, if you ask real nicely, you can get yours to come in a nice shade of Facebook blue... but much beyond that I wouldn't hold my breath on.
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Re: Evening Tech Bits
Mar 26, 2014, 22:52
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Re: Evening Tech Bits Mar 26, 2014, 22:52
Mar 26, 2014, 22:52
 
Thanks for putting a huge dent into KS confidence, Palmer, you fucking tool.

Maybe you can laugh at it while sipping tea with Mark Zuckerberg.
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