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hello newman wrote on Mar 26, 2014, 08:00:
No, because for the fifty billionth time a kickstarter pledge is not an investment.
That's just words man.
A KS pledge is MONEY. And Oculus invested it.
It's not an investment for YOU (since you were not given shares) but it is money to spend for THEM.
If you wish we can go into the economics of preorders and such and why they kinda suck, but for now, i'm sure you can see that Oculus got their money from gamers who wanted a gaming device (not a social device), made prototypes with that money, made publicity and whatnot with that money and now they are selling to Facebook and turning into a social thing instead of a gaming thing. They are pretty much screwing their hardcore gamer supporters.
This sale is made possible by the money of the Kickstarter supporters.
And I BET that at least half of those supporters would not have pledged money for Facebook...
Can you see now the problem ?
This is the problem we've been warning about ever since Kickstarter became news on the gaming scene: people giving money and not understanding what they were getting into.
The info on the KS page is what you're paying for and I haven't check but I doubt "we'll stay independent for at least 5 years" was there. The stuff in the tier that you purchase is what you're buying. You're not buying squat in terms of say in the future of the company and anyone who spends money, be it $10 or $10,000, needs to understand this. If anyone feels screwed by this then they're fools who didn't know what they were buying in the first place.
I understand why there is a backlash from Kickstarter 'investors' but I have absolutely zero sympathy for them. |
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