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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 23, 2014, 14:13
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Re: Saturday Metaverse Feb 23, 2014, 14:13
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jimnms wrote on Feb 23, 2014, 08:44:
I think I'll buy a van, paint Google Fiber on the side and drive around town and hope to get my local cable co.'s attention.

Winner.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 23, 2014, 09:10
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Re: Saturday Metaverse Feb 23, 2014, 09:10
Feb 23, 2014, 09:10
 
jdreyer wrote on Feb 22, 2014, 23:13:
2. What does it matter if they offer tiered options or not, when Verizon is throttling traffic at the peer to peer connection? When you throttle the peer, it doesn't matter if you're on a 5mb connection a 1 gigabit connection, it's just as slow.

This is another reason I think Google is getting into the ISP business. They're not really offering tiers because one of their purposes is to kick other ISPs in the ass to get their speeds up for "reasonable" rates. But I also think they're doing it to bring a hammer down on ISPs who throttle traffic or saturate peer links in hopes of extorting more money out of their peering partners. If you could have an ISP that offers fast speeds but engages in those practices or one that offers faster speeds and you know they don't and won't pull any shady BS for basically the same cost to you, who would you choose?

And Google is already looking at even faster speeds for their fiber even though no one really "needs" the gigabit they're already offering.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 23, 2014, 08:44
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Re: Saturday Metaverse Feb 23, 2014, 08:44
Feb 23, 2014, 08:44
 
I think I'll buy a van, paint Google Fiber on the side and drive around town and hope to get my local cable co.'s attention.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 23, 2014, 00:55
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Re: Saturday Metaverse Feb 23, 2014, 00:55
Feb 23, 2014, 00:55
 
Cutter wrote on Feb 22, 2014, 18:38:
I pay $35 per month for 15/1 DSL which is as good as it gets here for the price point and I still feel like I'm being robbed.

I pay $50 a month for 756k/256k. Over a fucking radio signal. Said signal bounces over three towers before it reaches the backbone, so any time any one of those towers has a problem, my internet access goes to the crapper.

Also, I've been with these guys for 7 years, and they've never once upgraded the speeds for anyone. When I ask them about it, they just flat-out say "No." Then offer to upgrade me to the 1024/256 tier, which is $79 a month.

So yeah, your connection really isn't that bad.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 23:13
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Re: Saturday Metaverse Feb 22, 2014, 23:13
Feb 22, 2014, 23:13
 
Cutter wrote on Feb 22, 2014, 18:38:
Ahhk, I stand corrected. I did not know that. Regardless, it's always nice to see tiered options. It just really gets on my tits when I talk to friends who work over in the Middle-East and how all this shit is basically nationalized and they get unlimited everything - cell, internet, etc and really good service - for like 10 bucks US per month.

I pay $35 per month for 15/1 DSL which is as good as it gets here for the price point and I still feel like I'm being robbed. Hell, I was on the bare bones cell plan with Petro Can here for $12 a month for 60 mins, free incoming text and free voicemail which was awesome because I barely use my phone - I don't text, surf, etc. And then the bastards up'd it to $20 in January to be on par with all the other plans. So even though we only have 5 providers across the country their packages are all virtually identical and all start at $20. That's not competition, that's collusion.

1. We'd kill for plans that start at $20. Ours all start at $40.

2. What does it matter if they offer tiered options or not, when Verizon is throttling traffic at the peer to peer connection? When you throttle the peer, it doesn't matter if you're on a 5mb connection a 1 gigabit connection, it's just as slow.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 20:26
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Re: Saturday Metaverse Feb 22, 2014, 20:26
Feb 22, 2014, 20:26
 
Cutter wrote on Feb 22, 2014, 13:18:
Only problem I have with G Fibe is that it's still $70 per month. That's effing expensive. Sure it's for a gig which is nice to have but totally unnecessary for most. They should have lower end tiers as well. As it stands this is just a service for the affluent and does nothing to address the needs of the poor and underserved.

I'm in Austin, I have TWC because it turns out to be exclusive to where I am (TWC has an exclusive contract in this apartment complex that prevents me from being able to choose the good ones like Grande) and so my bill is $65 a month for 20 up/2 down.

They gave me a "We're raising our rates on you! We could have been charging you over 75 dollars a month, but here! We gave you this complimentary 65 a month rate, aren't we swell!" letter recently.

So, $5 bucks more a month for Google Fiber? For me, it's a no brainer... I'm planning to move to wherever it is rolled out. No more being stuck in exclusive contract zones snuck in by TWC.

For a while I'll be benefiting from this upgrade in TWC speeds... but it will not help one iota in making me a loyal customer.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 18:38
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Re: Saturday Metaverse Feb 22, 2014, 18:38
Feb 22, 2014, 18:38
 
Ahhk, I stand corrected. I did not know that. Regardless, it's always nice to see tiered options. It just really gets on my tits when I talk to friends who work over in the Middle-East and how all this shit is basically nationalized and they get unlimited everything - cell, internet, etc and really good service - for like 10 bucks US per month.

I pay $35 per month for 15/1 DSL which is as good as it gets here for the price point and I still feel like I'm being robbed. Hell, I was on the bare bones cell plan with Petro Can here for $12 a month for 60 mins, free incoming text and free voicemail which was awesome because I barely use my phone - I don't text, surf, etc. And then the bastards up'd it to $20 in January to be on par with all the other plans. So even though we only have 5 providers across the country their packages are all virtually identical and all start at $20. That's not competition, that's collusion.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 15:24
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Re: Saturday Metaverse Feb 22, 2014, 15:24
Feb 22, 2014, 15:24
 
Cutter wrote on Feb 22, 2014, 13:18:
Only problem I have with G Fibe is that it's still $70 per month. That's effing expensive. Sure it's for a gig which is nice to have but totally unnecessary for most. They should have lower end tiers as well. As it stands this is just a service for the affluent and does nothing to address the needs of the poor and underserved.

I pay that now for far less. It's not just that it's a gigabit either, it's a gigabit synchronous, upstream and down which opens up a whole host of possibilities that aren't possible (or are very painful) with current home internet.

And thus far Google has offered a "free" option that is ostensibly "for life" in the areas that they serve which is a 5 Mbit line. They had to put a seven year limit on it because of some red tape but if you pay to have the fiber hooked up to your home (which is a couple hundred dollars at most) you've got a decent enough line for basic web use with no more monthly fees. And considering that that kind of line runs a minimum $15-20 a month in my area right now I would call that a great deal. I only hope Google continues to offer it to newer areas as they expand. I know a lot of places where that kind of thing could work wonders.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 14:46
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Re: Saturday Metaverse Feb 22, 2014, 14:46
Feb 22, 2014, 14:46
 
Cutter wrote on Feb 22, 2014, 13:18:
Only problem I have with G Fibe is that it's still $70 per month. That's effing expensive. Sure it's for a gig which is nice to have but totally unnecessary for most. They should have lower end tiers as well. As it stands this is just a service for the affluent and does nothing to address the needs of the poor and underserved.

I can't speak to other places, but in Provo there IS a free service (1Mb Up/5Mb Down)unless you want to pay for more. That will be available for seven years.

While I agree that those are people that need to be addressed, it's not like these people were getting internet and now that google has shown up it's being taken away, they never had free internet, why get upset that google doesn't offer it? (though they actually do, in this case.)

note: there is a 30 dollar 'construction fee.'
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 14:36
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Re: Saturday Metaverse Feb 22, 2014, 14:36
Feb 22, 2014, 14:36
 
Frijoles wrote on Feb 22, 2014, 12:51:
Same thing happened in SLC when Google Fiber was announced in Provo (about 30 min away). My speed doubled about 3 weeks after the announcement. No additional cost. It was followed with email spam proclaiming how great Comcast was and how my blazing fast speed would be all I ever needed.

Google just announced they're trying to come to SLC. I'm hoping I get another speed boost from Comcast until they get here. Maybe they can double it again.

I really hope SLC get's it. Provo already had some infrastructure in place, so I can see why it appealed to them. Some people in SLC love to make a stink whenever there is talk of infrastructure changes like this, so we'll see.
While it is not a unique situation, SLC is definitely on the list of suckers that thought the telecoms/cablecos were interested in remaining competetive and not just maintaining their stranglehold.
Fortunately for me, in my location I can get my fiber internet provided through Xmission, so I couldn't be happier in that regard.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 13:24
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Re: Saturday Metaverse Feb 22, 2014, 13:24
Feb 22, 2014, 13:24
 
Frijoles wrote on Feb 22, 2014, 12:51:
Same thing happened in SLC when Google Fiber was announced in Provo (about 30 min away). My speed doubled about 3 weeks after the announcement. No additional cost. It was followed with email spam proclaiming how great Comcast was and how my blazing fast speed would be all I ever needed.

Google just announced they're trying to come to SLC. I'm hoping I get another speed boost from Comcast until they get here. Maybe they can double it again.

They announced they were expanding into Phoenix too so I'm sure Cox and Centurylink will be upping their games here before long. It'll probably be a year before Google clears all the bureaucratic hurdles to start their build out though. If they come to my area I'll sure as hell hop aboard.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 13:18
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Re: Saturday Metaverse Feb 22, 2014, 13:18
Feb 22, 2014, 13:18
 
Only problem I have with G Fibe is that it's still $70 per month. That's effing expensive. Sure it's for a gig which is nice to have but totally unnecessary for most. They should have lower end tiers as well. As it stands this is just a service for the affluent and does nothing to address the needs of the poor and underserved.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 13:00
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Feb 22, 2014, 13:00
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Frijoles wrote on Feb 22, 2014, 12:51:
Same thing happened in SLC when Google Fiber was announced in Provo (about 30 min away). My speed doubled about 3 weeks after the announcement. No additional cost. It was followed with email spam proclaiming how great Comcast was and how my blazing fast speed would be all I ever needed.

Google just announced they're trying to come to SLC. I'm hoping I get another speed boost from Comcast until they get here. Maybe they can double it again.

That's awesome! Good luck with google. I'd be extremely tempted to try them, if the opportunity present itself.

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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 12:51
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Re: Saturday Metaverse Feb 22, 2014, 12:51
Feb 22, 2014, 12:51
 
Same thing happened in SLC when Google Fiber was announced in Provo (about 30 min away). My speed doubled about 3 weeks after the announcement. No additional cost. It was followed with email spam proclaiming how great Comcast was and how my blazing fast speed would be all I ever needed.

Google just announced they're trying to come to SLC. I'm hoping I get another speed boost from Comcast until they get here. Maybe they can double it again.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 12:44
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Feb 22, 2014, 12:44
 
Creston wrote on Feb 22, 2014, 12:12:
"In stark contrast to our competitors, upon completion of this short rollout phase, these faster speeds and choices will be available to every Time Warner Cable customer in every area we serve in the Austin market, not just select neighborhoods,” Kathy Brabson, the area vice president of operations for Time Warner Cable in Central Texas, said in the release.

Get fucking bent, you miserable bitch. Without Google Fiber coming to Austin, you would have done fucking JACK SHIT.

Don't hold back now, Cres. Tell her how you REALLY feel.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 12:44
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Feb 22, 2014, 12:44
 
Surprise, surprise, surprise. Monopoly gets its ass in gear when threatened with competition. Hoocoodanode?
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 12:35
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Panickd wrote on Feb 22, 2014, 10:39:
Look at that, all it takes is actual competition in a market for ISPs to start providing speeds they claimed they couldn't support only months before. Greedy fucks.

Exactly.

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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 12:12
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Re: Saturday Metaverse Feb 22, 2014, 12:12
Feb 22, 2014, 12:12
 
"In stark contrast to our competitors, upon completion of this short rollout phase, these faster speeds and choices will be available to every Time Warner Cable customer in every area we serve in the Austin market, not just select neighborhoods,” Kathy Brabson, the area vice president of operations for Time Warner Cable in Central Texas, said in the release.

Get fucking bent, you miserable bitch. Without Google Fiber coming to Austin, you would have done fucking JACK SHIT.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 11:03
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Feb 22, 2014, 11:03
 
Here's to hoping Google Fiber can get rolled out everywhere.
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Re: Saturday Metaverse
Feb 22, 2014, 10:39
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Feb 22, 2014, 10:39
 
Look at that, all it takes is actual competition in a market for ISPs to start providing speeds they claimed they couldn't support only months before. Greedy fucks.
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