Mad Max RW wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 17:42:
I really don't mean to freak you guys out, but there's a whole world out there, who are not consumed by hard core games!![]()
Acleacius wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 22:21:Mad Max RW wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 17:42:No, do the majority of WoW players run 64 bit OS?Acleacius wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 17:21:
Customer wise, they are cutting their own throat. It boggles the mind at how epically ****** SOE can be, at least half their customers use 32 bit OS. Only a minority computer professionals and gamers use 64 bit.
Can you prove any of what you just said?Desalus wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 17:47:The numbers are just my experience, good point about the PS4. I see a big difference between a game on Steam and low end mmogs. As an example, the main reason WoW has been able to get their numbers are the low system requirements. It's a bad thing, anytime you limit your customer base in business, especially what SOE has been doing.Acleacius wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 17:21:
Customer wise, they are cutting their own throat. It boggles the mind at how epically ****** SOE can be, at least half their customers use 32 bit OS. Only a minority computer professionals and gamers use 64 bit.
Half their customers? Where did you get that number from? According to the recent Steam Hardware and Software survey 21% of Windows users run a 32 bit OS. 74% are running 64 bit.
Also remember that this game is being released for the PS4, so they probably came to the conclusion that the 21% of PC gamers isn't enough to change their technology to accommodate them. In the next few years that 21% will likely dwindle to a point that all games will be developed for 64 bit OS.
Really, what group of gamers is looking for a pixelated WoW builder clone that only runs on 64 bit?Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 20:12:Maybe I made it sound like I didn't use or appreciate 64 bit? Right, in my experience only hard core gamers or computer system knowledgeable people use or know to get 64 bit. Obviously you guys know there are Win 7 & Win 8 32 bit OS.Acleacius wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 17:21:You mean a majority of gamers and professionals use a 64bit OS? Come on, going 64bit has been the trend since 2002 and if you didn't see it coming you're either blind, or ignored the writing on the wall. We're at the limit for 32bit, as such there's no point in writing things for it unless it's legacy required.
Customer wise, they are cutting their own throat. It boggles the mind at how epically ****** SOE can be, at least half their customers use 32 bit OS. Only a minority computer professionals and gamers use 64 bit.
And let's be realistic, 32bit had a hell of a shelf life. Being that it was pushed into hard service in ~1988.
I really don't mean to freak you guys out, but there's a whole world out there, who are not consumed by hard core games!![]()
Acleacius wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 22:21:
Maybe I made it sound like I didn't use or appreciate 64 bit? Right, in my experience only hard core gamers or computer system knowledgeable people use or know to get 64 bit. Obviously you guys know there are Win 7 & Win 8 32 bit OS.
I really don't mean to freak you guys out, but there's a whole world out there, who are not consumed by hard core games!![]()
Acleacius wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 22:21:Nah. But your experience must be pretty limited, even at the local shitshop(BB/FS/Staples), you can't buy a ground floor PC with anything except a 64bit OS. Even the junk-o-tron 3000 at walmart comes with a 64bit OS now.
Maybe I made it sound like I didn't use or appreciate 64 bit? Right, in my experience only hard core gamers or computer system knowledgeable people use or know to get 64 bit. Obviously you guys know there are Win 7 & Win 8 32 bit OS.
I really don't mean to freak you guys out, but there's a whole world out there, who are not consumed by hard core games!![]()
bhcompy wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 13:15:Nice fail. No one complained about a 64 bit requirement. I simply asked if they would hold their ground because I suspected a good portion of their customer base wasn't using a 64 bit OS. Additionally, I said it was reasonable, but didn't know if their customers would agree. And the discussion continued from there.
I feel like I'm in another world here. People complaining about a 64 bit requirement,...people complaining about bandwidth requirements
Mad Max RW wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 17:42:No, do the majority of WoW players run 64 bit OS?Acleacius wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 17:21:
Customer wise, they are cutting their own throat. It boggles the mind at how epically ****** SOE can be, at least half their customers use 32 bit OS. Only a minority computer professionals and gamers use 64 bit.
Can you prove any of what you just said?
Desalus wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 17:47:The numbers are just my experience, good point about the PS4. I see a big difference between a game on Steam and low end mmogs. As an example, the main reason WoW has been able to get their numbers are the low system requirements. It's a bad thing, anytime you limit your customer base in business, especially what SOE has been doing.Acleacius wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 17:21:
Customer wise, they are cutting their own throat. It boggles the mind at how epically ****** SOE can be, at least half their customers use 32 bit OS. Only a minority computer professionals and gamers use 64 bit.
Half their customers? Where did you get that number from? According to the recent Steam Hardware and Software survey 21% of Windows users run a 32 bit OS. 74% are running 64 bit.
Also remember that this game is being released for the PS4, so they probably came to the conclusion that the 21% of PC gamers isn't enough to change their technology to accommodate them. In the next few years that 21% will likely dwindle to a point that all games will be developed for 64 bit OS.
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 20:12:Maybe I made it sound like I didn't use or appreciate 64 bit? Right, in my experience only hard core gamers or computer system knowledgeable people use or know to get 64 bit. Obviously you guys know there are Win 7 & Win 8 32 bit OS.Acleacius wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 17:21:You mean a majority of gamers and professionals use a 64bit OS? Come on, going 64bit has been the trend since 2002 and if you didn't see it coming you're either blind, or ignored the writing on the wall. We're at the limit for 32bit, as such there's no point in writing things for it unless it's legacy required.
Customer wise, they are cutting their own throat. It boggles the mind at how epically ****** SOE can be, at least half their customers use 32 bit OS. Only a minority computer professionals and gamers use 64 bit.
And let's be realistic, 32bit had a hell of a shelf life. Being that it was pushed into hard service in ~1988.
Creston wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 20:17:Desalus wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 17:47:
According to the recent Steam Hardware and Software survey 21% of Windows users run a 32 bit OS. 74% are running 64 bit.
? What is the other five percent running? 8 bit?![]()
Acleacius wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 17:21:You mean a majority of gamers and professionals use a 64bit OS? Come on, going 64bit has been the trend since 2002 and if you didn't see it coming you're either blind, or ignored the writing on the wall. We're at the limit for 32bit, as such there's no point in writing things for it unless it's legacy required.
Customer wise, they are cutting their own throat. It boggles the mind at how epically ****** SOE can be, at least half their customers use 32 bit OS. Only a minority computer professionals and gamers use 64 bit.
Acleacius wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 17:21:
Customer wise, they are cutting their own throat. It boggles the mind at how epically ****** SOE can be, at least half their customers use 32 bit OS. Only a minority computer professionals and gamers use 64 bit.
Verno wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 16:04:Just further proof that WinME wasn't an OS, but devious software used in mind control.
I remember one time I posted a joke here about Windows ME and some guy actually popped up to defend it. This was sometime last year too.
jacobvandy wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 14:20:
According to Steam, 32-bit XP/Vista/7 combined account for about 20% of gamers. IMO it's way past time to go 64-bit only, it's better for everyone.
Creston wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 11:06:Mark me as a brave soul. I ran it for years, the biggest problem I had was the lack of drivers, beside that it was beautifully solid. As good as 7x64.
Anyone who runs XP-64 is a brave, brave soul.![]()
jacobvandy wrote on Feb 4, 2014, 14:20:Apparently Win9 will be 64bit only, so it's coming whether the laggers want it or not. We went through this same shit with the 8 to 16, and 16 to 32bit transitions too.
According to Steam, 32-bit XP/Vista/7 combined account for about 20% of gamers. IMO it's way past time to go 64-bit only, it's better for everyone.