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Re: Saturday Consolidation
Jan 19, 2014, 21:51
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Re: Saturday Consolidation Jan 19, 2014, 21:51
Jan 19, 2014, 21:51
 
Derp.
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Re: Saturday Consolidation
Jan 19, 2014, 16:05
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Re: Saturday Consolidation Jan 19, 2014, 16:05
Jan 19, 2014, 16:05
 
You, Redmask, are now aware of the global corporatocracy? Because that's what matters.
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Re: Saturday Consolidation
Jan 19, 2014, 14:45
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Re: Saturday Consolidation Jan 19, 2014, 14:45
Jan 19, 2014, 14:45
 
Does he seem like the kind of person who is bothered by that? I'm sure he revels in you acting like a 10 year old.
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Re: Into the Black
Jan 19, 2014, 14:12
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Re: Into the Black Jan 19, 2014, 14:12
Jan 19, 2014, 14:12
 
But you have to be made aware of the global corporatocracy!
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Re: Into the Black
Jan 19, 2014, 13:34
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Re: Into the Black Jan 19, 2014, 13:34
Jan 19, 2014, 13:34
 
Mad Max RW wrote on Jan 19, 2014, 13:17:
So I guess Nintendo was voted out of the "global corporatocracy".

No one cares about your personal beef.
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Re: Into the Black
Jan 19, 2014, 13:17
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Re: Into the Black Jan 19, 2014, 13:17
Jan 19, 2014, 13:17
 
So I guess Nintendo was voted out of the "global corporatocracy".
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Re: Into the Black
Jan 19, 2014, 11:25
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Re: Into the Black Jan 19, 2014, 11:25
Jan 19, 2014, 11:25
 
Hellbinder wrote on Jan 19, 2014, 01:01:
ColoradoHoudini wrote on Jan 18, 2014, 23:26:
I like to consider myself a gamer.. but I absolutely missed the Wii U launch, and up until recently, I thought it was an add-on for the Wii.

I am on many gaming sites weekly, work with a gamer, talk games and play games all the time.. and I didnt even know WTF a Wii U was. Their marketing team really screwed that up.

That is literally the craziest thing I have ever read. You play games, work with a gamer and visit game sites but you never saw any of the year long media blitz for the Wii U or the controller?

I just cant see how that is even possible.

Well his name is Houdini. Houdini is clearly a wizard who does not know much about Muggle things.
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Re: Saturday Consolidation
Jan 19, 2014, 10:29
Tom
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Re: Saturday Consolidation Jan 19, 2014, 10:29
Jan 19, 2014, 10:29
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HoSpanky wrote on Jan 19, 2014, 07:20:
If a 10 year old kid knows Ezio's backstory, that kid's parents have failed miserably at their responsibilities.
I'm not saying they should know anything about Mario (what's there to know? Princess, bowser, green pipes), but they shouldn't be playing games that reward them for murdering people in public and not being spotted.

Yeah, seriously. The Assassin's Creed games are NOT for kids! WTF.
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Re: Saturday Consolidation
Jan 19, 2014, 07:20
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Re: Saturday Consolidation Jan 19, 2014, 07:20
Jan 19, 2014, 07:20
 
If a 10 year old kid knows Ezio's backstory, that kid's parents have failed miserably at their responsibilities.
I'm not saying they should know anything about Mario (what's there to know? Princess, bowser, green pipes), but they shouldn't be playing games that reward them for murdering people in public and not being spotted.
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Re: Saturday Consolidation
Jan 19, 2014, 04:29
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Re: Saturday Consolidation Jan 19, 2014, 04:29
Jan 19, 2014, 04:29
 
This isn't new, this is the fourth time nintendo has fucked up. The Wii while it sold a lot had shit 3rd party support, same as gamecube and 64.

Without that support your console is shit. The Wii was truly a pyrrhic victory for nintendo.

The reality is all their main properties are either becoming increasingly played out and have lost their quality they used to have. This is especially true with starfox which basically was ruined by miyamoto with adventures and assault. All nintendo has now is mario, smash and kart.

Zelda unfortunately is the property with the greatest weaknesses and many of us oldsters have permanently abanadoned ship as we gave nintendo chance after chance to figure it out and now its all coming to a head.

Nintendo's next console will be it's last if they don't fix their properties or get some new ones.

The software lineup isn't that compelling anymore because of the lack of imagination and originality.
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Re: Into the Black
Jan 19, 2014, 03:03
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Re: Into the Black Jan 19, 2014, 03:03
Jan 19, 2014, 03:03
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Hellbinder wrote on Jan 19, 2014, 01:01:
ColoradoHoudini wrote on Jan 18, 2014, 23:26:
I like to consider myself a gamer.. but I absolutely missed the Wii U launch, and up until recently, I thought it was an add-on for the Wii.

I am on many gaming sites weekly, work with a gamer, talk games and play games all the time.. and I didnt even know WTF a Wii U was. Their marketing team really screwed that up.

That is literally the craziest thing I have ever read. You play games, work with a gamer and visit game sites but you never saw any of the year long media blitz for the Wii U or the controller?

I just cant see how that is even possible.

Let's say this is true though. Who bought Wii's? I would wager a good majority of the tens of millions sold were not to gamer's or people in the know. And while I agree I'm surprised by ColoradoHoudini's statement (really?!), you can bet your ass many people who bought the Wii have no idea what the WiiU is. Nintendo f*cked up in many ways. Marketing, the name, launch lineup, price, complete lack of being able to transfer Wii virt console games to your Wii U, and of course online gaming. List goes on.

@Robdot, I would throw in one thing about your comment that people only bought the Wii because of the bundled Wii Sports. I would argue that a lot of what helped the Wii sell, especially at launch, was the hype and promise of what motion controls could do. It was the perfect time in the industry to release and hype up those controllers, and that got a lot of people very excited.

edit: @tagged the wrong person

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Re: Saturday Consolidation
Jan 19, 2014, 02:31
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Re: Saturday Consolidation Jan 19, 2014, 02:31
Jan 19, 2014, 02:31
 
The wii sold because of the pack in game, and thats it, we all know that.Wii sports is the greatest selling game of all time.
Wii u should have just picked a pack in game. Lego city would have really helped, that was a cool game. nintendoland was not going to move consoles,,,ever.
The wii u requires too many controllers, you have the gamepad, then you need a wii plus wand thing, and a nunchuck. But you cant play co op, or fighting games games with that stupid wand, so you need some pro controllers.
They just seemed completely unprepared for the next generation. Stupid name, no marketing scheme, and no real reason to buy one. i have a million grandkids and not a one gives a crap about any mario game. Time has moved on. They know ezio's and desmonds back story. They dont give a shit about saving the princess.
I have 6 kids in the house all weekend ,and the game they will play the most is just dance on my xbox one. and dont need 4 controllers to do it. The boys will play black flag. They all reminded me many times that tomb raider is coming out again. Im gonna have to rebuy it. But you know who doesnt have tomb raider? Nintendo. By next christmas, is any kid in america gonna ask for a wii u? Ha, no fucking way, its dead.

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Re: Into the Black
Jan 19, 2014, 01:01
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Re: Into the Black Jan 19, 2014, 01:01
Jan 19, 2014, 01:01
 
ColoradoHoudini wrote on Jan 18, 2014, 23:26:
I like to consider myself a gamer.. but I absolutely missed the Wii U launch, and up until recently, I thought it was an add-on for the Wii.

I am on many gaming sites weekly, work with a gamer, talk games and play games all the time.. and I didnt even know WTF a Wii U was. Their marketing team really screwed that up.

That is literally the craziest thing I have ever read. You play games, work with a gamer and visit game sites but you never saw any of the year long media blitz for the Wii U or the controller?

I just cant see how that is even possible.
The Whales name is Bob.
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Re: Into the Black
Jan 18, 2014, 23:26
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Re: Into the Black Jan 18, 2014, 23:26
Jan 18, 2014, 23:26
 
I like to consider myself a gamer.. but I absolutely missed the Wii U launch, and up until recently, I thought it was an add-on for the Wii.

I am on many gaming sites weekly, work with a gamer, talk games and play games all the time.. and I didnt even know WTF a Wii U was. Their marketing team really screwed that up.
The amount of damage done to the US in the first week alone has to have China and Russia laughing at us.
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Re: Into the Black
Jan 18, 2014, 22:46
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Re: Into the Black Jan 18, 2014, 22:46
Jan 18, 2014, 22:46
 
I can't believe how unprepared Nintendo was for this gen. They have that huge pile of cash they built up with the Wii and DS, they had years to plan and beef up their development teams, they had years to talk to other devs to learn how to manage the jump to 360/PS3 level graphics and networking. There really is no excuse for being so technologically backward at this point. I still enjoy Nintendo stuff but they've earned these lumps, hopefully it forces some internal changes. And yet they're firing on all cylinders with the 3DS, it's almost like two different companies.
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Re: Saturday Consolidation
Jan 18, 2014, 19:53
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Re: Saturday Consolidation Jan 18, 2014, 19:53
Jan 18, 2014, 19:53
 
Ya we really enjoy the online tennis too. Never thought my kids would like it but they LOVE the golf.

I would never buy a PS4 or a Xbone, so our family orientated backwards compatible Wii U has hit the spot regardless of how it ends up selling overall.
Yours truly,

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Re: Saturday Consolidation
Jan 18, 2014, 19:44
Tom
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Re: Saturday Consolidation Jan 18, 2014, 19:44
Jan 18, 2014, 19:44
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I got my Wii U at a nice discount ($250) a while back. I decided to pick one up mainly because I'd given away my Wii but wanted to get back into Wii Fit. Well, the killer app for the system for me turned out to be Wii Sports Club tennis online multiplayer. I loved tennis on the Wii but almost never had a chance to play it with other humans. I played against the AI until my skill level went off the chart (literally) but that could only go on for so long. It only took 7 years but they finally made an online multiplayer version, and I love it. It has its problems (synchronous netcode like the original Quake before QuakeWorld, which SUCKS when you get matched up with someone in Brazil) but it's still a ton of fun. And it's easy to fire up casually, play a few rounds after work, and burn off some stress without involving shooting.

Art Academy: Sketchpad + the Miiverse is a close second for me. The Miiverse is an amazing community full of insanely talented people who love to draw and share their art. Nintendo has made it super easy to find, keep up with, and communicate with these people. And even if you never really did any drawing (like me) it really encourages you to try it out. The feel of the stylus on the Wii U gamepad is great, with just the right resistance for drawing. You won't get that feel with the ability to draw directly onto a screen on many other devices, I think.

It saddens me to see Nintendo struggle with this but if the Wii U is a flop, so be it. So was the Dreamcast, and I still got an incredible amount of enjoyment out of that.
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Re: Saturday Consolidation
Jan 18, 2014, 15:30
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Re: Saturday Consolidation Jan 18, 2014, 15:30
Jan 18, 2014, 15:30
 
Total shit storm.

Bad hardware for third parties. Poor third party tools. They forgot to bring first party games again. Gamepad adds $70+ to the system price which limits price cut ability. Gamers in general have not taken to the gamepad. Management completely out of touch with reality of online networks. Slumping Japanese market moving increasingly to mobile devices. Horrible name that confuses users. High price keeping it out of reach from the casual users.

They are in a very tough spot, the Wii U just isn't a good sell to most people right now.
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Re: Saturday Consolidation
Jan 18, 2014, 14:43
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Jan 18, 2014, 14:43
 
The wiiU is a hard machine to recommend. While the first party games and the incredible Rayman Legends are worthwhile...there just isn't enough going for the machine.

Shame, tho. It works quite happily with original Wii controllers, negating the need to buy more controllers. BIG plus for families, where a new console usually "costs" $150 more than what's on the box, so everyone can play. It runs original Wii games, allows you to play on the touchpad without needing the tv, for most games. Nintendo just doesn't realize that being on par with last generation machines means NO third party wants to make a game for it, when that game would have to be rebuilt to look good enough on the ps4/Xbone. 2d games are an exception.

I got my wiiU free, and even after the fun we've had with it, I wouldn't buy it at full price. Maybe $200. But the gamepad is too expensive to sell the whole system at that price, and it's required for the machine to run. With almost every game having something to do with the gamepad, you can't even go back and make the OS able to run without it. Nintendo's just gonna need to ride this one out.
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