If there were multiple SOE MMOs I wanted to play this would be great. But considering I've never played any of them, the value is of this is of little concern to me.

yonder wrote on Jan 7, 2014, 19:36:

MajorD wrote on Jan 7, 2014, 15:45:
WTF am I missing? $14.99/Month (~$180.00/year); how is that attractive, or even a deal?

With as many games most people have in their libraries, most unfinished and a lot un-played, I just don't see the logic is shelling out $14.99/MONTH to play a game(s). /shrug

It's not to play "A" game, it's to play ANY of their games.

Let's say Sony hadn't annihilated Star Wars Galaxies and it was still an ongoing, fairly unique MMO. Let's say you play that still. Now, let's say you also want to play some EverQuest. Now, let's say there's an upcoming subscription-based MMO that you're really interested in.

In the past, that'd be 3 subscriptions.

Now it's one.

Because c'mon, you're not playing them at the same time...

*THAT* is the value. *IF* you're interested in multiple subscription-based Sony MMOs then it's a great deal.

... but I'm still burnt from SWG... I miss my dancing wookies!

Makes sense, thanks for clarifications. Definitely cost effective IF that is what you're interested in. Obviously not for everyone; not me as you could tell already.

Cheers

Ah, so instead of a kneejerk station cash change, they actually went and thought things through after the outcry and are doing what they should have done in the first place?

Ryan Lange wrote on Jan 7, 2014, 20:01:

Stormsinger wrote on Jan 7, 2014, 16:55:
Anyone know what their reasoning is/was for requiring monthly claims? I couldn't see a good reason for it on the original proposal, and they're not clarifying it here (nor did they include a link to that other thread).

The "other thread", I believe, is here. There's a lot of enlightening information there, but you might have to dig for it.

The gist of it, as I understand it, is that Station Cash in general is a financial liability. You can buy $10 worth of SC, but SOE can't actually count that $10 until the SC is used to purchase something. Until the SC is spent, the transaction sits on their books as a liability, making quite a mess of things. Allowing "idle" accounts to accumulate SC makes things even uglier.

I think this stems from the little-understood notion that SOE isn't selling the SC itself; they're selling the items that you purchase with that SC. The SC is just an intermediate storage of value, like store credit or gift cards, that doesn't actually count for anything until you buy something with it.

Thanks for the link, I'll go spend a bit of time reading it. I rather suspected it was an accountant's problem, not a real issue that lead to this rule. The fact is, they have been paid, and they're apparently concerned that one form of virtual goods (SC or any form of credits) is bad for them, while another form (virtual items in a game) is good. And people think we gamers have problems with reality...

Many of the problems in our society can be traced back to the games accountants play to hide the facts.

[VG]Reagle wrote on Jan 7, 2014, 20:03:

Ryan Lange wrote on Jan 7, 2014, 19:43:

MajorD wrote on Jan 7, 2014, 15:45:
WTF am I missing? $14.99/Month (~$180.00/year); how is that attractive, or even a deal?

Just get a fucking job already.

How do you upvote a comment here because the one above deserves it!

You would rue the day that was implemented here, as you would be bombed into the stone age, based on some of your previous posts.

Ryan Lange wrote on Jan 7, 2014, 19:43:

MajorD wrote on Jan 7, 2014, 15:45:
WTF am I missing? $14.99/Month (~$180.00/year); how is that attractive, or even a deal?

Just get a fucking job already.

How do you upvote a comment here because the one above deserves it!

Stormsinger wrote on Jan 7, 2014, 16:55:
Anyone know what their reasoning is/was for requiring monthly claims? I couldn't see a good reason for it on the original proposal, and they're not clarifying it here (nor did they include a link to that other thread).

The "other thread", I believe, is here. There's a lot of enlightening information there, but you might have to dig for it.

The gist of it, as I understand it, is that Station Cash in general is a financial liability. You can buy $10 worth of SC, but SOE can't actually count that $10 until the SC is used to purchase something. Until the SC is spent, the transaction sits on their books as a liability, making quite a mess of things. Allowing "idle" accounts to accumulate SC makes things even uglier.

I think this stems from the little-understood notion that SOE isn't selling the SC itself; they're selling the items that you purchase with that SC. The SC is just an intermediate storage of value, like store credit or gift cards, that doesn't actually count for anything until you buy something with it.

MajorD wrote on Jan 7, 2014, 15:45:
WTF am I missing? $14.99/Month (~$180.00/year); how is that attractive, or even a deal?

Just get a fucking job already.

Everyone PRE-ORDER GAMES FROM EA to teach SOE a lesson!!

MajorD wrote on Jan 7, 2014, 15:45:
WTF am I missing? $14.99/Month (~$180.00/year); how is that attractive, or even a deal?

With as many games most people have in their libraries, most unfinished and a lot un-played, I just don't see the logic is shelling out $14.99/MONTH to play a game(s). /shrug

It's not to play "A" game, it's to play ANY of their games.

Let's say Sony hadn't annihilated Star Wars Galaxies and it was still an ongoing, fairly unique MMO. Let's say you play that still. Now, let's say you also want to play some EverQuest. Now, let's say there's an upcoming subscription-based MMO that you're really interested in.

In the past, that'd be 3 subscriptions.

Now it's one.

Because c'mon, you're not playing them at the same time...

*THAT* is the value. *IF* you're interested in multiple subscription-based Sony MMOs then it's a great deal.

... but I'm still burnt from SWG... I miss my dancing wookies!

damn so back to saving every two months just to buy a new helmet. oh well..

Not really much to complain about here, most SOE titles are F2P with sub options and the parcel of games you get to play for 15 bucks a month is extensive.

Don't need to sub if you don't want to, but if you do, you get enhanced benefits in a bunch of titles. Seems smart for them and good for the customer.

This is a great deal. I'll likely sub to this.

This will probably heist a few more subs from WoW. Folks are chipping away at them.

Anyone know what their reasoning is/was for requiring monthly claims? I couldn't see a good reason for it on the original proposal, and they're not clarifying it here (nor did they include a link to that other thread).

Planetside 2 feels better than ever these days. With the terrain/base enhancements across Indar and Esamir (still working on Amerish) and the recent performance update, the game is fantastic and easy to reccomend.

Can you buy City of Heroes pretty pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeze?

Maybe they can use all that money to buy some hit detection in Planetside 2.

WTF am I missing? $14.99/Month (~$180.00/year); how is that attractive, or even a deal?

With as many games most people have in their libraries, most unfinished and a lot un-played, I just don't see the logic is shelling out $14.99/MONTH to play a game(s). /shrug

I'll unify you! *shakes a fist menacingly*

awesome... i want to play Planetside 2 now.