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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 11:27
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 11:27
Jan 6, 2014, 11:27
 
Even though I don't play the games, I really wish Sony/Microsoft/EA/Activision/Etc would release a solution to allow players to set up their own servers and continue playing. Then again, I'm sure the MP landscape for these games is desolate at best.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 11:35
Verno
 
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Jan 6, 2014, 11:35
 Verno
 
I don't know if the demand for the PS4 is just that crazy that they can't keep stock or if Sony isn't shipping that many units. It sells out everywhere within minutes around here. The Xbox One I can find stock pretty easily, not sure if Microsoft is just doing a better job of supplying retailers or if demand is lower. I think MS was smart in doing that lame Day One edition stuff, people seem to eat up artificial scarcity of electronics for some reason. Be interesting to see if it keeps up momentum.

Both consoles are pretty boring right now though, this is why backwards compatibility is nice because once you get through AC4 and maybe 1-2 other games that's it for a long time.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 11:48
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 11:48
Jan 6, 2014, 11:48
 
My ps4 isn't boring at all , after ac4 i have , injustice, nba 2k14, killzone, resogun, flower,contrast, pinball arcade, skylanders, Lego marvel, trine 2 in 3d, escape plan, need for speed rivals, trine in 3d is wicked awesome. Your ps4 must be broke, you should take it back.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 11:51
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 11:51
Jan 6, 2014, 11:51
 
Sounds pretty boring to me.

PS - Your PS4 must be "broken". Sorry, that's a pet peeve of mine.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 11:58
Verno
 
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 11:58
Jan 6, 2014, 11:58
 Verno
 
robdot wrote on Jan 6, 2014, 11:48:
My ps4 isn't boring at all , after ac4 i have , injustice, nba 2k14, killzone, resogun, flower,contrast, pinball arcade, skylanders, Lego marvel, trine 2 in 3d, escape plan, need for speed rivals, trine in 3d is wicked awesome. Your ps4 must be broke, you should take it back.

Listing everything available doesn't mean it all appeals to a buyer. Skylanders for my 5 year old maybe? I knew the score on console launches so I'm not upset about it, it was just an offhand comment. I have high hopes for 2014 with The Order 1886, Infamous and so on.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 12:35
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 12:35
Jan 6, 2014, 12:35
 
My ps4 is on 24 hours a day,,I have 4 controllers and the boys play basketball until the girls force them off. Knack, contrast , and escape plan are more popular than Lego or skylanders. While lower rated,contrast was very popular here. My ps4 is the most unboring thing in my house. Besides me.
Anyone who says a ps4 is boring, doesn't like games. There are now 21 games with a metacritic rating over 70.
I never buy cod or battlefield, no one here is interested at all in those games.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 12:42
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 12:42
Jan 6, 2014, 12:42
 
BitWraith wrote on Jan 6, 2014, 11:51:
Sounds pretty boring to me.

PS - Your PS4 must be "broken". Sorry, that's a pet peeve of mine.

Yeah, that sounds miserable.

At least the Xbox One has all the TV stuff to screw around with. That will get boring in 20 minutes, but it's more than the PS4 offers right now. And, even then, it's unwanted UI crap to mess around with, not something you necessarily want or would ever use again.

I'll never get early adopting a new console. All the games out either suck (Killzone), or are just ports from the previous gen and offer no advantages (Ghosts.)

By the time a worthwhile game comes out for either system, they'll be easier to find.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 12:54
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 12:54
Jan 6, 2014, 12:54
 Prez
 
My PC has about a billion awesome games on it!
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 12:55
Verno
 
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 12:55
Jan 6, 2014, 12:55
 Verno
 
robdot wrote on Jan 6, 2014, 12:35:
Anyone who says a ps4 is boring, doesn't like games. There are now 21 games with a metacritic rating over 70.

Yeah I heard you the first time but again, that's a pretty lame generalization and Metacritic is totally meaningless (particularly since the scale of games 70-80 is awful) when it comes to personal taste anyway. I'm sure Injustice and NBA2k14 are good but I'm just not into fighting and sports games. Contrast is a really mediocre game and Knack isn't very good IMO. NBA2k14 is too sim for my taste. There are certainly fun games for the PS4 but I've beaten the two that really appealed to me. AC4 was great and Resogun was solid but other than I'm sort of waiting for Don't Starve and other stuff to come out. I'm happy your PS4 seems a lot of use in your large family with many youngins (to be expected) but I bought my daughter a Wii, she really doesn't need a PS4 so I'm looking for games for me.

Like I said it's a launch year so I knew the deal going into it, I was just hoping platform adoption would be faster. My buddy has an Xbox One with a similar problem now that he beat Dead Rising 3. We're just waiting on more games to come out. Plenty to play on other platforms thankfully.

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 13:05
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 13:05
Jan 6, 2014, 13:05
 
I'll be curious to see how this generation pans out. The boxes are selling well, but I'm not sure how the casual crowd is going to react fully to the seemingly lackluster upgrades from last gen. South Park said it best when they said "The graphics are 10% better!"

I'm also curious to see how Steam Machines affect the landscape.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 13:23
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 13:23
Jan 6, 2014, 13:23
 nin
 
Prez wrote on Jan 6, 2014, 12:54:
My PC has about a billion awesome games on it!

We don't all have steam accounts like you, Prez.

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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 14:09
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Jan 6, 2014, 14:09
 
Prez wrote on Jan 6, 2014, 12:54:
My PC has about a billion awesome games on it!

Yes, but are you playing them all? Right now, simultaneously.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 14:14
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Jan 6, 2014, 14:14
 
yeah i hit 58 games in my steam library because of sales. I know that is small potatoes compared to some people. but how could you pass up the entire bioshock series for 11 bucks? playing infinite now and it is totally awesome.

my pc is a console.

btw.. I don't believe these analysts at all. Xbox ones don't sell out anywhere and PS4 are gone before they hit the floor. I was in wallyworld just over the weekend. 3 xbox ones for sale no ps4's and that was on a Saturday night. meaning no none had rushed in to buy the xbox ones.

you cant trust analysts they hacks for Microsoft.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 14:21
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 14:21
Jan 6, 2014, 14:21
 
xbone can't touch PS4, but neither interest me in the least.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 14:22
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 14:22
Jan 6, 2014, 14:22
 
Prez wrote on Jan 6, 2014, 12:54:
My PC has about a billion awesome games on it!

*DING
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 14:23
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 14:23
Jan 6, 2014, 14:23
 
nin wrote on Jan 6, 2014, 13:23:
Prez wrote on Jan 6, 2014, 12:54:
My PC has about a billion awesome games on it!

We don't all have steam accounts like you, Prez.


We all could.

Console price
Controllers price
Membership dues
Full retail game prices
Accessories for console
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Add all that up, be a nice chunk of money towards REASONABLY priced games on pc.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 14:38
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 14:38
Jan 6, 2014, 14:38
 
BitWraith wrote on Jan 6, 2014, 13:05:
I'll be curious to see how this generation pans out. The boxes are selling well, but I'm not sure how the casual crowd is going to react fully to the seemingly lackluster upgrades from last gen. South Park said it best when they said "The graphics are 10% better!"

I'm also curious to see how Steam Machines affect the landscape.

The graphics are 10% better... now.
People seem to forget how things work in the 3D era. It isn't like the jump from NES to SNES anymore. But go look at the 360 or PS3 launch titles and compare them to late Xbox or PS2 titles, then to current 360 or PS3 titles. They look much more like the earlier generation than like current titles.
In other words, what we're seeing now is significantly worse than what these consoles are capable of and will be doing.

The bigger issue will be gameplay changes.
NES -> SNES: More buttons, meaning more ways to interact
SNES -> N64/PS: 3D
N64/PS -> PS2/GC/Xbox: Standard dual stick, allowing for better interaction with 3D worlds, enough RAM to do larger 3D worlds like GTA3
PS2/GC/Xbox -> PS3/360: Standardized and utilized online, enough RAM to do larger 3D worlds
PS2/360 -> PS4/Xbone: ???


Not really sure what this generation will offer that last generation couldn't do. I don't know if anyone is sure. Previously, there were clear signs and clear things being pushed. Now, everything is done better, but better isn't new. The new stuff is more out-of-game, like streaming and recording, but that doesn't change games.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 14:50
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 14:50
Jan 6, 2014, 14:50
 
Yeah, I'm sure MS isn't lying and padding their numbers at all.
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 15:20
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 15:20
Jan 6, 2014, 15:20
 
No beamer, the xbone and ps4 will not have a drastic improvement as you saw with the last gen, not even close. These new consoles were only filling a gap in hardware specs, they are sub-par Pc's in architecture posing as 'next gen' consoles.

You will, however, see major improvements with the wii U over time. Not an endorsement for you haters, just telling it the way it is.

Oh, and the Wii U outsold the Xbone the week before Christmas. Again no endorsement, just facts : )

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Axis
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Re: Morning Consolidation
Jan 6, 2014, 15:24
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Re: Morning Consolidation Jan 6, 2014, 15:24
Jan 6, 2014, 15:24
 
CrimsonPaw wrote on Jan 6, 2014, 11:27:
Even though I don't play the games, I really wish Sony/Microsoft/EA/Activision/Etc would release a solution to allow players to set up their own servers and continue playing. Then again, I'm sure the MP landscape for these games is desolate at best.

Console people always seem to be happy when games are released that have outside servers for multiplayer. Peeps seem to hate P2P multiplayer, but at least with P2P it will always work. I can't see closed systems like consoles allowing the general public to host dedicated servers.
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