Yeah, GC2 was good but not nearly as good as MOO 1 or 2. Could be really good though if they fix some of the bland features (bland tech, cookie cutter weapons and defense, no control over combat and dry races). Hopefully they will put their effory into that.

Bleh, GalCiv II wasn't anything stellar, even after I modded it myself to my tastes...

MoO on the other hand.

Give me MoO 4, or give me death!

Ozmodan wrote on Oct 15, 2013, 16:35:
Galactic Civ II did not even come close to what Master of Orion II had, even III was better IMO. Going to wait and see, but I don't think Stardock can write a good space strategy game.

This was exactly what I wanted to say. (Apart from MOO3 being good, erm no it was not) I never got into Gal Civ II because it felt and played like a weaksauce MOOII. I hope this is going to be better.

This comment was edited on Oct 16, 2013, 09:11.

I loved the previous galciv, and I'm sure this one will be good as well.

They are charging $100 for alpha because they saw what happened with planetary annihilation and various kickstarters and want to replicate it.
If they aren't going to run an actual kickstarter, IMHO they need to get it into steam early access to get the kinda sales that planetary annihilation did. And they may well plan that seeing as they've mentioned in the footnotes of the purchase page that the game is going to be delivered on steam.

A little rich for my blood personally, until I see more.

Note: They are only charging $40 to get it and have beta access which is more what I think I'll do.

NegaDeath wrote on Oct 16, 2013, 00:33:

UConnBBall wrote on Oct 15, 2013, 22:22:
BUT when have they earned this kind of trust? Everything from Stardock has been a mess for what 7 years!

In 7 years we got two great Galciv2 expansions and the entirety of the SOASE franchise. Good enough for me.

Edit: For anyone who has never played Galciv I encourage you to read these two gameplay diaries written by Tom Francis, the guy who also made the excellent Gunpoint. They give you a good insight to the game and are wonderfully hilarious to read.

If I had to guess, I'd say that he's referring to the general failure of Demigod and the whole Elemental debacle. Oh, and the whole Brad Wardell sexual harrassment / victim lawsuit data deletion thing. But they never released "Misogyny, Corporate espionage, mansplanation and Lawsuit Simulator 2000". It didn't test well.

To be fair, something folks need to keep in mind is that both Demigod and SOASE were only published by Stardock, not developed by them (I think. One was GpG and the other was Ironclad, right? Correct me if I'm wrong.) GalCiv 2 was the best 4x space game since MOO 2, and if it weren't for Wardell's douchebaggery keeping me from giving him my money I'd be all over GalCiv 3.

Overall, I'm just glad to see the genre evolving and regaining popularity.

NegaDeath wrote on Oct 16, 2013, 00:33:

UConnBBall wrote on Oct 15, 2013, 22:22:
BUT when have they earned this kind of trust? Everything from Stardock has been a mess for what 7 years!

In 7 years we got two great Galciv2 expansions and the entirety of the SOASE franchise. Good enough for me.

Edit: For anyone who has never played Galciv I encourage you to read these two gameplay diaries written by Tom Francis, the guy who also made the excellent Gunpoint. They give you a good insight to the game and are wonderfully hilarious to read.

Those are fantastic. I think I read one of them a very long time ago but completely forgot about it.

Rigs wrote on Oct 15, 2013, 22:25:

UConnBBall wrote on Oct 15, 2013, 22:22:
BUT when have they earned this kind of trust? Everything from Stardock has been a mess for what 7 years!

If you're referring to the whole Fallen Enchantress debacle, then I can say that most of those that play GC2 didn't bother with it. It's a strat game, sure, but most GC2 players are 4x freaks. And the support Stardock gave for GC2 during it's run, including the mod community, more than makes up for any mess they had with another game from another genre...


=-Rigs-=

Fallen is a 4x game, same genre just a fantasy setting. Thats what has me personally worried as i absolutely loved GalCiv2 and its expansions but i couldnt stand Fallen Enchantress.

UConnBBall wrote on Oct 15, 2013, 22:22:
BUT when have they earned this kind of trust? Everything from Stardock has been a mess for what 7 years!

In 7 years we got two great Galciv2 expansions and the entirety of the SOASE franchise. Good enough for me.

Edit: For anyone who has never played Galciv I encourage you to read these two gameplay diaries written by Tom Francis, the guy who also made the excellent Gunpoint. They give you a good insight to the game and are wonderfully hilarious to read.

This comment was edited on Oct 16, 2013, 01:27.

UConnBBall wrote on Oct 15, 2013, 22:22:
BUT when have they earned this kind of trust? Everything from Stardock has been a mess for what 7 years!

If you're referring to the whole Fallen Enchantress debacle, then I can say that most of those that play GC2 didn't bother with it. It's a strat game, sure, but most GC2 players are 4x freaks. And the support Stardock gave for GC2 during it's run, including the mod community, more than makes up for any mess they had with another game from another genre...


=-Rigs-=

BUT when have they earned this kind of trust? Everything from Stardock has been a mess for what 7 years!

They're charging $100 to guarantee that only the true fanatics buy it before release. Those fans will then have to justify to themselves as well as to their friends that it was worth every penny, assuring plenty of pre-release positive buzz. It's a win-win for them.

UConnBBall wrote on Oct 15, 2013, 19:37:
Also with that road record they are charging $100????? Wow they must think they are better than Blizzard.

Dude, not like it's hoarse armoar...

If you don't want to pay $100, then don't. Those of us that absolutely LOVE the series will as a sign to Stardock that, yes, we want more, please! Simple as that...


=-Rigs-=

Are there still OEMs installing 32-bit Windows on machines with 64-bit CPUs? I know we have some 32-bit users, and I don't know of any 32-bit CPUs that would run our game halfway acceptably.

Seriously when have they released a good game that works as advertised???? I am waiting a good few months.

Also with that road record they are charging $100????? Wow they must think they are better than Blizzard.

ASeven wrote on Oct 15, 2013, 16:19:

Creston wrote on Oct 15, 2013, 12:32:
GALCIV III! FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCKEYS FCKYEYSSYSYEYEYEESSSSSS

I agree with this man.

+3!

OMG! OMG! OMG! I've been plaing GC2 since it's launch! Seriously, it's NEVER come off my hard drive! Or more realistically, it's one of the first games to be PUT on my hard drive when I re-install/re-build! I was just playing it yesterday, for Geezus sake! And now a number 3?!? YES! YES! YES!

Just PLEASE DON'T FUCK IT UP, STARDOCK! NO SOTS2 AGAIN!


=-Rigs-=

I shudder at this shameless money-grab by snake-oil salesmen.

MARK MY WORDS! You all will absolutely HATE THIS GAME when it is rele---

Okay, I'm kidding.

Looks very interesting, hope they get the gameplay just right. I also haven't felt a recapturing of the magic of MoO 1/2 in any game just yet either, although some have come close.

Man, on one hand im hyped as fuck. New GalCiv! Then I remember how terrible fallen enchantress is even after the expansions and all the patches and I start to lose hope. Here's hoping the guy that did fall from heaven is a big part of the design process rather then the guy from civ5.

eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 15, 2013, 14:03:
Birds are singing of hexes instead of grid.. this makes this an automatic buy..

Official website confirms it will have hexes

Gonna hold off celebrating until I'm assured that combat is something more than a horrible snoozefest that looks like it was designed by a half-drunk, blind man with narcolepsy.

I really need to block out a weekend to play number 2 still... But i'm still excited about the third one. Very interested to see what they can do using only 64bit.