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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 14:26
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 14:26
Oct 6, 2013, 14:26
 
Bullshit. Kinect is built for nothing BUT advertising. You fuckers even had videos fucking cheering about how awesome it was to watch ads with Kinect, because then you could share them with your friends and other such utter retardery.
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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 14:29
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 14:29
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Also, people seem slightly disgruntled at the state of GTA Online...

Pls R* next time when you try to f**k me pls by me lipstick because i wanna look good wen you f**k me over and over again

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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 14:33
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 14:33
Oct 6, 2013, 14:33
 
I can also imagine Ballmer went all over Hollywood to show off how they can do a head count and charge accordingly for pay-per-view movies and sporting events.

All that biometric data at their fingertips and they're not going to ply advertising with it? I suspect the 'Kinect' is optional to be complete B.S.

In order to watch this programming you need to plug in your Kinect device now.
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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 15:19
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 15:19
Oct 6, 2013, 15:19
 
Creston wrote on Oct 6, 2013, 14:29:
Also, people seem slightly disgruntled at the state of GTA Online...

Pls R* next time when you try to f**k me pls by me lipstick because i wanna look good wen you f**k me over and over again

Giggle

I personally would ask for lube, but to each his own

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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 15:29
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 15:29
Oct 6, 2013, 15:29
 
Creston wrote on Oct 6, 2013, 14:26:
Bullshit. Kinect is built for nothing BUT advertising. You fuckers even had videos fucking cheering about how awesome it was to watch ads with Kinect, because then you could share them with your friends and other such utter retardery.

HA! I responded to that period of the sentence with BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSHIIIIIIIIIIIIT~!

GTA issues: Everyone with issues - are you on the PS3? I have been flawless on xbox.
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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 15:38
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 15:38
Oct 6, 2013, 15:38
 
Nope. Not designed at all for ads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSk5DhxQHLo
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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 16:19
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 16:19
Oct 6, 2013, 16:19
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Oct 6, 2013, 15:29:
Creston wrote on Oct 6, 2013, 14:26:
Bullshit. Kinect is built for nothing BUT advertising. You fuckers even had videos fucking cheering about how awesome it was to watch ads with Kinect, because then you could share them with your friends and other such utter retardery.

HA! I responded to that period of the sentence with BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSHIIIIIIIIIIIIT~!

GTA issues: Everyone with issues - are you on the PS3? I have been flawless on xbox.

I think most of the issues are on the playstation, yeah. I guess it's fair, the 360 had more issues with single player glitches, so the PS3 gets the online problems.
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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 16:46
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 16:46
Oct 6, 2013, 16:46
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So is it or isn't it? Microsoft execs need to have a long talk with their PR department. It sounds like they are all winging it as they all keep saying contradictory things.
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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 16:58
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 16:58
Oct 6, 2013, 16:58
 
Dacron wrote on Oct 6, 2013, 15:38:
Nope. Not designed at all for ads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSk5DhxQHLo

Yeah, I remember when I first saw that video, how utterly stupid I thought MS was. It's something The Onion would make, not an actual corporation. MS has its head so far up its own ass it has no understanding of how much people hate advertising and merely tolerate it as a way of getting cheaper content. No one wants to interact with ads and send them to their friends. That's how you end up with no friends.

That's not to say there aren't good ads out there, but they are so very, very, very rare.
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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 17:10
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 17:10
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jdreyer wrote on Oct 6, 2013, 16:58:
That's not to say there aren't good ads out there, but they are so very, very, very rare.

Ha, never seen that one!

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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 17:36
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 17:36
Oct 6, 2013, 17:36
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DangerDog wrote on Oct 6, 2013, 14:33:
I can also imagine Ballmer went all over Hollywood to show off how they can do a head count and charge accordingly for pay-per-view movies and sporting events.

All that biometric data at their fingertips and they're not going to ply advertising with it? I suspect the 'Kinect' is optional to be complete B.S.

In order to watch this programming you need to plug in your Kinect device now.

Because no advertiser has the resources to analyze that data, the knowledge to know what to make of it, or the care to bother paying for it.

It's the same reason the current Kinect isn't used for advertising - no one wants to bother. Microsoft approached many companies, asking them to pay a few million to create a Kinect advertisement, or an entire Kinect-based Xbox Live grid. No one took them up on it. Why? Because Microsoft engineers can dream up all these moderately cool things, but no one actually wants them. No advertiser, and certainly no customer.

The only real use people have posited for how any of this could be useful is pausing whenever people look away from an ad, but no advertiser would ever, ever pay for that. Ever. Ads that piss people are what companies that can't afford anything else do (see: Head On.) Companies that Microsoft is courting aren't looking to alienate people, and they're well aware that most ads aren't paid attention to yet are still effective.

I know many here disagree, but no one has thrown out a valid use for all this biometric data. Do you guys really think SC Johnson has a team of mixed physicians and data analysts that can read this? Do you guys really think your pulse even rises that much during a 30 second ad? Or, if you think content creators want this, do you honestly think Paramount has any strong data analysts on staff with the kind of phd needed to go through this? Do you think they actually care? Is this kind of data actually useful when creating a movie, or is it infinitely easier and cheaper to monitor and more useful to just pay attention to where Netflix users rewind and rewatch?

This isn't to say Microsoft didn't hope to do this and build for it, but they've probably realized no one has any interest in paying them for it.
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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 18:02
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As another shown the link. I love how they are now working on hoping are memories fail us.
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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 18:03
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 18:03
Oct 6, 2013, 18:03
 
xXBatmanXx wrote on Oct 6, 2013, 15:29:
Creston wrote on Oct 6, 2013, 14:26:
Bullshit. Kinect is built for nothing BUT advertising. You fuckers even had videos fucking cheering about how awesome it was to watch ads with Kinect, because then you could share them with your friends and other such utter retardery.

HA! I responded to that period of the sentence with BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSHIIIIIIIIIIIIT~!

GTA issues: Everyone with issues - are you on the PS3? I have been flawless on xbox.

Likewise. It's been nearly flawless for me on 360.

I've also been leaving GTA Online by switching to Single player before I shut it down, ensuring that a save is made.

It seems like people are being impatient when the cloud servers are down and creating a new character in the same slot as their old one which overwrites the old one.

Level 36 with a launch day character and everything has been peachy other than a few connectivity issues on Day 1 and if I try to play before 7pm EST.
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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 18:58
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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 19:33
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 19:33
Oct 6, 2013, 19:33
 
The Kinect might not be built around it, but sure-as-fuck they will shove as many ads as they possibly can, down your throat, while they make you pay to play online or watch Netflix, as they already do on 360. Very close to the top of reasons why I would not consider an XBone... bleh.
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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 19:33
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 19:33
Oct 6, 2013, 19:33
 
The PA report did an article on XBox Live Advertising last year.

Thankfully, a source who would like to remain anonymous leaked the ad sales data from October 2011 to June 2012. Microsoft sells ads on the Xbox 360 Dashboard at a CPM of between $19 to $23, depending on the ad placement and the type of ad. You’ll pay an extra 20% for animated or video ads, and if you’d like to select specific demographics for those ads, you’ll pay an extra 15% per “targeting criteria,” with the maximum bump being 30%.

They already do targeted advertising. Using the Kinect to better refine that is a no-brainer.

I contacted Microsoft and asked how much advertising revenue impacted the profitability of the Xbox 360. “We don’t share this information publicly but we can tell you that, since 2010, the advertising business has grown 142%”

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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 19:40
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 19:40
Oct 6, 2013, 19:40
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“We don’t share this information publicly but we can tell you that, since 2010, the advertising business has grown 142%”

That pretty much sums up the changes in the dashboard as well.

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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 19:58
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 19:58
Oct 6, 2013, 19:58
 
Beamer wrote on Oct 6, 2013, 17:36:
It's the same reason the current Kinect isn't used for advertising - no one wants to bother. Microsoft approached many companies, asking them to pay a few million to create a Kinect advertisement, or an entire Kinect-based Xbox Live grid. No one took them up on it.
I have articles from Eurogamer and CVG that disagree with you.
I know many here disagree, but no one has thrown out a valid use for all this biometric data. Do you guys really think SC Johnson has a team of mixed physicians and data analysts that can read this? Do you guys really think your pulse even rises that much during a 30 second ad? Or, if you think content creators want this, do you honestly think Paramount has any strong data analysts on staff with the kind of phd needed to go through this? Do you think they actually care? Is this kind of data actually useful when creating a movie, or is it infinitely easier and cheaper to monitor and more useful to just pay attention to where Netflix users rewind and rewatch?

I'll just leave this article about Target analyzing shopping habits. To think biometric data could be useful for advertisers sounds plausible enough for me. There's probably firms out there willing to analyze the data for you if you don't have anything in-house.
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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 20:53
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Oct 6, 2013, 20:53
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Fifth wrote on Oct 6, 2013, 19:58:
Beamer wrote on Oct 6, 2013, 17:36:
It's the same reason the current Kinect isn't used for advertising - no one wants to bother. Microsoft approached many companies, asking them to pay a few million to create a Kinect advertisement, or an entire Kinect-based Xbox Live grid. No one took them up on it.
I have articles from Eurogamer and CVG that disagree with you.
I know many here disagree, but no one has thrown out a valid use for all this biometric data. Do you guys really think SC Johnson has a team of mixed physicians and data analysts that can read this? Do you guys really think your pulse even rises that much during a 30 second ad? Or, if you think content creators want this, do you honestly think Paramount has any strong data analysts on staff with the kind of phd needed to go through this? Do you think they actually care? Is this kind of data actually useful when creating a movie, or is it infinitely easier and cheaper to monitor and more useful to just pay attention to where Netflix users rewind and rewatch?

I'll just leave this article about Target analyzing shopping habits. To think biometric data could be useful for advertisers sounds plausible enough for me. There's probably firms out there willing to analyze the data for you if you don't have anything in-house.

None of that relates back, unless you are saying that they want to monitor biometrics not in reaction but just in general, and if you think they want to tie it back.

The Target article is pretty famous, and still doesn't tie to what people think will happen here, and it isn't relevant because it's Target using the buying habits they actually have coming in, not monitoring if someone's pulse changes when they put a Christmas ad on.

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Re: Sunday Consolidation
Oct 6, 2013, 21:46
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Re: Sunday Consolidation Oct 6, 2013, 21:46
Oct 6, 2013, 21:46
 
No, I do not want to learn more about the design philosophy of an under-powered console.
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