Verno wrote on Aug 28, 2013, 16:27:

jdreyer wrote on Aug 28, 2013, 16:20:
@Verno, cool hobby I'm just starting to get into it. The kids love it. We go to a local gym for climbing, and sometimes to a rock outcropping (only about 12' high with a sandy bottom for soft landings). Tons of fun.

We just started a few years ago myself but we've been really enjoying it. You meet a lot of cool people, although there are some pretty crazy ego seekers who seem attracted to it as well. I go to an indoor in the winter/fall and mainly stick to established rock routes in the spring and summer. I'm thinking about taking some courses at Rainier next year if I can get the time off work, maybe work my way into ice climbing. It's hella expensive though, the gear alone is nuts and I'm not sure I want to sit around melting ice for water for hours on big mountains just for bragging rights. Then again you see some pictures of Annapurna, Nanga Parbat or K2 and hell, a man can dream

Anyways glad to hear you got the kids into it, its a great physical activity. If you ever want to swap stories or etc hit me up on Steam, I've got some pretty crazy pictures already

Just getting into it, so not too much to tell yet. I do love the combination of full body workout combined with mental activity. You really need to plan your moves and think ahead.

Man I haven't seen that episode of the Simpsons in forever, good call dude

Verno wrote on Aug 28, 2013, 23:00:
Imagine trying to climb K2 though, seriously look at this picture. That mountain wants to fucking kill you!

It's the Murderhorn!

Creston wrote on Aug 28, 2013, 17:37:
National Geographic did a story about Everest a few issues ago, and it was ridiculous. It's just a line of people stepping on each other's feet that reaches from camp 4 to the top. And the top is so crowded that typically people can't even get on because there's no room to stand.

Yeah, Everest is a tourist affair these days. Buy an expedition slot and get lucky with the weather then you're there, there is little technical climbing on the South Col route on the Nepalese side. The only real test is if your lung capacity and VO2 max are good enough to get you to the top without getting cerebral edema. There's also a significant luck factor though I guess. The Khumbu Icefall on the way to Everest is far more dangerous. Imagine ice towers the size of buildings that are constantly shifting and moving, you have to cross it over ladders.

I would much rather climb a mountaineers mountain like K2 or Annapurna. The risk of death is so high on those mountains though that you really have to weigh if its worth trying. We'll see how my training on Rainier goes, I've got years of work before I tackle anything nuts anyway

Imagine trying to climb K2 though, seriously look at this picture. That mountain wants to fucking kill you!

Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay, the current Everest climbers are not.

I believe Sir Ed (Hillary) was not overly fond of the way that the level of tourist climbing had got too.

Verno wrote on Aug 28, 2013, 14:28:
I climb in my free time, mostly outdoor rock. Ice climbing requires a lot of training and a lot of expensive gear, it's also much more risky IMHO. No one expects to be rescued on an 8000m peak and Everest less than most because its so expensive and theres usually absurd traffic jams since theres only a small window of time to climb it before monsoon season picks up again. If you can't function on your own then you're pretty much dead unless you're with a large climbing party. That being said his story about leaving that climber to die would have had more impact with me if he hadn't tried to liken it to a situation in his video game.

National Geographic did a story about Everest a few issues ago, and it was ridiculous. It's just a line of people stepping on each other's feet that reaches from camp 4 to the top. And the top is so crowded that typically people can't even get on because there's no room to stand.

Here's a link to the article in question. They have a gallery on the left with more pics. The shot of people just walking past this dead woman who had died not long before, is almost unreal to see.

jdreyer wrote on Aug 28, 2013, 16:20:
@Verno, cool hobby I'm just starting to get into it. The kids love it. We go to a local gym for climbing, and sometimes to a rock outcropping (only about 12' high with a sandy bottom for soft landings). Tons of fun.

We just started a few years ago myself but we've been really enjoying it. You meet a lot of cool people, although there are some pretty crazy ego seekers who seem attracted to it as well. I go to an indoor in the winter/fall and mainly stick to established rock routes in the spring and summer. I'm thinking about taking some courses at Rainier next year if I can get the time off work, maybe work my way into ice climbing. It's hella expensive though, the gear alone is nuts and I'm not sure I want to sit around melting ice for water for hours on big mountains just for bragging rights. Then again you see some pictures of Annapurna, Nanga Parbat or K2 and hell, a man can dream

Anyways glad to hear you got the kids into it, its a great physical activity. If you ever want to swap stories or etc hit me up on Steam, I've got some pretty crazy pictures already

Verno wrote on Aug 28, 2013, 14:28:
I climb in my free time, mostly outdoor rock. Ice climbing requires a lot of training and a lot of expensive gear, it's also much more risky IMHO. No one expects to be rescued on an 8000m peak and Everest less than most because its so expensive and theres usually absurd traffic jams since theres only a small window of time to climb it before monsoon season picks up again. If you can't function on your own then you're pretty much dead unless you're with a large climbing party. That being said his story about leaving that climber to die would have had more impact with me if he hadn't tried to liken it to a situation in his video game.

@Verno, cool hobby I'm just starting to get into it. The kids love it. We go to a local gym for climbing, and sometimes to a rock outcropping (only about 12' high with a sandy bottom for soft landings). Tons of fun.

Talk, talk, talk...where's stand alone?

P.S. He's been spouting that story since the beginning of DayZ, heard it a million times.

I climb in my free time, mostly outdoor rock. Ice climbing requires a lot of training and a lot of expensive gear, it's also much more risky IMHO. No one expects to be rescued on an 8000m peak and Everest less than most because its so expensive and theres usually absurd traffic jams since theres only a small window of time to climb it before monsoon season picks up again. If you can't function on your own then you're pretty much dead unless you're with a large climbing party. That being said his story about leaving that climber to die would have had more impact with me if he hadn't tried to liken it to a situation in his video game.

eRe4s3r wrote on Aug 28, 2013, 11:44:

J wrote on Aug 28, 2013, 08:44:
I've read about that before. I wonder if this is part of the build-up to something.

Yeah everyone fears the mighty new zealandian army.....

Well, the Press does at any rate seeing as the Kiwi army was told to treat them as terrorists.

Cool story, bro.

J wrote on Aug 28, 2013, 08:44:
I've read about that before. I wonder if this is part of the build-up to something.

Yeah everyone fears the mighty new zealandian army.....

"You desire to know the art of living, my friend? It is contained in one phrase: make use of suffering." -Henri-Frederic Amiel

Seems Dean Hall is making use of his suffering.

More like trying to get people to remember its still there. So many similar games now in development I really think he might have missed the boat on mad sales, he'll probably still do good sales though.

I've read about that before. I wonder if this is part of the build-up to something.