The Xbox One controller seems like a minor iteration over the 360 controller. The Playstation 4 controller is like a tidal shift by comparison, of course they had much more to improve but pretty much every source who has played with one says that it's a great controller.

I like the wired/wireless part of the controller.

That said it is still a game pad, I can only get so excited.

Beamer wrote on Aug 25, 2013, 02:26:
I've been through this a hundred times but people don't seem to listen.

That's because you've never touched the new controller and I don't believe you know anything about ergonomics. I've used it and it's perfectly comfortable, it was a design issue not stick placement and you will see as people who have used it and the press has. The Xbox no longer has a controller advantage and I say that as someone who hated the DS3. The real question is will Sony actually ship drivers so PC gamers can use the damned thing easily. Bluetooth dongles are cheap and most people have one sitting around for a phone so I see no reason why that can't happen.

This comment was edited on Aug 25, 2013, 09:36.

Redmask wrote on Aug 25, 2013, 01:59:

ViRGE wrote on Aug 25, 2013, 01:38:
The sticks are sadly still in the wrong place. Though with that one I'm first waiting to see if it's any easier to hold.

The sticks are fine.

But he's right, they're in the wrong place for it to be perfect.

I've been through this a hundred times but people don't seem to listen. Lift your hands off the keyboard, keeping them in the standard, resting position. Now turn them outwards like you're holding a controller. See where your thumbs naturally go? They naturally go up high. That's where what's used most should be. That's why the buttons where there on the NES and SNES controller. That's why they've never much moved. That's where your thumbs experience the least stress.

But, with the original DS, Sony just placed the sticks where there was room. Sadly, they never moved them. Microsoft moved the left stick, because you use it exponentially more than the pad. They didn't move the right stick because, at the time, buttons were still more common and because it's a bit easier to be accurate going back to the home position than going away from it, making it easier to hit the buttons.

There's no excuse for Sony to keep the left stick where it is, other than tradition, and tradition is an awful way to do ergonomic design.

ViRGE wrote on Aug 25, 2013, 01:38:
The sticks are sadly still in the wrong place. Though with that one I'm first waiting to see if it's any easier to hold.

The sticks are fine. You could put offset sticks into a DS3 and it would still be a nightmare because it was just a crappy controller design. The curved hand grips, added weight and additional space between the sticks make the DS4 very comfortable to use. It is a night and day improvement in my opinion and pretty much every single press outfit raves about it.

I actually thought that was a really good demo. Fairly in depth, quick, and right to the point. Good job MS!

Redmask wrote on Aug 24, 2013, 20:05:

ViRGE wrote on Aug 24, 2013, 17:45:

The Half Elf wrote on Aug 24, 2013, 15:34:
The only problem with the last controller was the directional pad was crap.

Which the new one apparently fixes, which would make it just about the best controller ever.

Wait til you've held the new PS4 controller, it's pretty great and will make the DS3 just a bad memory.

The sticks are sadly still in the wrong place. Though with that one I'm first waiting to see if it's any easier to hold.

PS4 controller has a touchpad and PS Move sensor built-in, while the Xbox one just looks like a slight incremental upgrade over the previous iteration.

ViRGE wrote on Aug 24, 2013, 17:45:

The Half Elf wrote on Aug 24, 2013, 15:34:
The only problem with the last controller was the directional pad was crap.

Which the new one apparently fixes, which would make it just about the best controller ever.

Wait til you've held the new PS4 controller, it's pretty great and will make the DS3 just a bad memory.

IIRC they said it will be available for PC early 2014. I want that one.

ViRGE wrote on Aug 24, 2013, 17:45:

The Half Elf wrote on Aug 24, 2013, 15:34:
The only problem with the last controller was the directional pad was crap.

Which the new one apparently fixes, which would make it just about the best controller ever.

Still doesn't worth $500

The Half Elf wrote on Aug 24, 2013, 15:34:
The only problem with the last controller was the directional pad was crap.

Which the new one apparently fixes, which would make it just about the best controller ever.

The only problem with the last controller was the directional pad was crap.

They just try way too hard in those videos. The majoroldguy one was ridiculous, he must have used the word beautiful 4 times as if describing a painting. It's a hunk of plastic.

These Microsoft PR videos makes me want to throw up.
This is the second or third video they've made now about the controller.
Guess the previous controller video with Major Nelson didn't boost sales enough.
I am sure this one will do the trick