Quboid wrote on Jul 22, 2013, 10:23:
Perhaps the project leaders can't get the backing for a whole new Homeworld game, so they are testing the water and as Wenzil says, building up the technology.

Do these make much money? They tend to be greeted with more excitement when they're announced than when they're released.

I would be willing to believe that this is indeed a market test, and I too would be curious to see the numbers on PC re-mastered games.

Perhaps the project leaders can't get the backing for a whole new Homeworld game, so they are testing the water and as Wenzil says, building up the technology.

Do these make much money? They tend to be greeted with more excitement when they're announced than when they're released.

Jivaro wrote on Jul 21, 2013, 14:31:
To me, if offering a HD version of classic older games is what gets a new generation of wallets customers to play, appreciate, and become interested in well crafted games like this one then I am all for it. If all it does it get the same players to re-buy the game, I am not sure I see the point. It would be interesting to see which is more common...the veteran or the virgin.

The HD versions of games like Ico and Shadow of the Colossus are the only reason my 19 year old nephew ever played them. It exposed him to gaming of a different quality and it has affected his purchasing choices. Now he expects more from games and he pays more attention to who makes them. That is great and all, but I wonder how common that really is. The enthusiast in me wants to believe that gaming has aged to the point that the classics will continue to be re-mastered and re-released to new generations, much like the Monopoly or Life board games, because they are timeless and that is how you get new generations to play them. The cynic in me thinks it is a complete cash grab being employed because pre-existing assets make development cheaper, faster, and doable with smaller teams.

This.

To me, if offering a HD version of classic older games is what gets a new generation of wallets customers to play, appreciate, and become interested in well crafted games like this one then I am all for it. If all it does it get the same players to re-buy the game, I am not sure I see the point. It would be interesting to see which is more common...the veteran or the virgin.

The HD versions of games like Ico and Shadow of the Colossus are the only reason my 19 year old nephew ever played them. It exposed him to gaming of a different quality and it has affected his purchasing choices. Now he expects more from games and he pays more attention to who makes them. That is great and all, but I wonder how common that really is. The enthusiast in me wants to believe that gaming has aged to the point that the classics will continue to be re-mastered and re-released to new generations, much like the Monopoly or Life board games, because they are timeless and that is how you get new generations to play them. The cynic in me thinks it is a complete cash grab being employed because pre-existing assets make development cheaper, faster, and doable with smaller teams.

mag wrote on Jul 21, 2013, 03:16:

dumpy wrote on Jul 21, 2013, 01:10:
While they have done games that could be described as 'bad' in many different ways, they have also done some pretty good games. Rather than writing them off, I would urge people to be critically analytical =)

For the record, I most definitely do not like Randy Pitchford.

http://www.gearboxsoftware.com/games

Kind of a big pile of dull. And I guess people really like Borderlands, but it's not my kind of thing.

Funny to see Samba de Amigo in that list, though.

It was just them doing a port, like they did with Halo...

Dmitri_M wrote on Jul 21, 2013, 08:47:
After all the shit surrounding the Aliens release I'm kind of surprised everyone is happy about them simply repackaging a classic like Homeworld and cashing in on it.

I love the original. I want a new game. I don't want to play games I've already played a decade prior.. I don't know what there is to be excited about.

Tell me they're making HW3. Then I'd be excited.

I agree. HD remakes are nice, but why not just make a new game? Seems like a quick cash grab. There are plenty of mods for Homeworld 2 that add to the gameplay and update the graphics already

After all the shit surrounding the Aliens release I'm kind of surprised everyone is happy about them simply repackaging a classic like Homeworld and cashing in on it.

I love the original. I want a new game. I don't want to play games I've already played a decade prior.. I don't know what there is to be excited about.

Tell me they're making HW3. Then I'd be excited.

dumpy wrote on Jul 21, 2013, 01:10:
While they have done games that could be described as 'bad' in many different ways, they have also done some pretty good games. Rather than writing them off, I would urge people to be critically analytical =)

For the record, I most definitely do not like Randy Pitchford.

http://www.gearboxsoftware.com/games

Kind of a big pile of dull. And I guess people really like Borderlands, but it's not my kind of thing.

Funny to see Samba de Amigo in that list, though.

While they have done games that could be described as 'bad' in many different ways, they have also done some pretty good games. Rather than writing them off, I would urge people to be critically analytical =)

For the record, I most definitely do not like Randy Pitchford.

Yes please. Thank you.

Darkmancer wrote on Jul 20, 2013, 18:33:

Burrito of Peace wrote on Jul 20, 2013, 13:53:
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What about Homeworld:Cataclysm?

Wasn't made by relic, I think it was cave dog who made it. Shame really because despite the b-movie plot it probably has the best combat mechanics/interesting features of the three. lets see, wormholes, exploding resources, huge cannons, races which actually play differently, ships which combine together to form force fields, stealth ships that leach health, absorbing enemy force, etc etc.

I think there's a lot of rose tinted glasses here. Homeworld combat mechanics were nothing special. Where homeworld stood out was treating the player intelligently (shock), actual proper 3d battlefield and most importantly the atmosphere of the game.

Homeworld 2 was rushed out mediocrity, the story was a jarred mess and nothing really stood out about it, I really hope there's some changes to it.

Even though Cataclysm was developed by Barking Dog Studios (now Rockstar Vancouver), shouldn't Gearbox own it now? Cataclysm, like all the other games, was published by Sierra who owned the IP. So I'd assume it's part of the package that was sold to THQ, then Gearbox.

hopefully its not outsourced this small team.

Ozmodan wrote on Jul 20, 2013, 21:51:
I don't have high hopes that Gearbox can do this.

Do what? Add high rez textures and widescreen options onto an already finished game? I'm thinking they can at least do that much...

I don't have high hopes that Gearbox can do this.

People need to learn to not get excited about ANYTHING with Gearbox's name attached.

They should include Homeworld: Cataclysm as that was my favorite of them all.

Totally buying these!!!

I loves me some Homeworld!!!!

Cutter wrote on Jul 20, 2013, 14:55:
Those games already looked great for their time. I fail to see what a remake will bring to the table. I'd far rather see an entirely new game in the same style.

The first one was pretty pixelicious even when it was first released. More polys and better textures will definitely help.

Burrito of Peace wrote on Jul 20, 2013, 13:53:
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What about Homeworld:Cataclysm?

Wasn't made by relic, I think it was cave dog who made it. Shame really because despite the b-movie plot it probably has the best combat mechanics/interesting features of the three. lets see, wormholes, exploding resources, huge cannons, races which actually play differently, ships which combine together to form force fields, stealth ships that leach health, absorbing enemy force, etc etc.

I think there's a lot of rose tinted glasses here. Homeworld combat mechanics were nothing special. Where homeworld stood out was treating the player intelligently (shock), actual proper 3d battlefield and most importantly the atmosphere of the game.

Homeworld 2 was rushed out mediocrity, the story was a jarred mess and nothing really stood out about it, I really hope there's some changes to it.

Initially this was exciting news, as the Homeworld series is great. However I fear Gearbox is going to fuck it up royally, in several different ways.

Hopefully I'm wrong, and the two remakes come out amazing, but something tells me they won't be able to control themselves at Gearbox and will just plain ruin this opportunity.