Out of the Blue

With the ball sitting there on a tee for them, Sony succeeded in pleasing most observers after announcing concrete details about the PS4, and how it will be more consumer-friendly in ways that the Xbox One will not be. So with the battle for the next generation officially a win for Sony, I think it's time to turn our attention to the next-next-generation. Will the PS5 continue it's lead over the next Xbox? Will the next Xbox actually be the Xbox Two? I'm already impatient for answers!

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Jun 11, 2013, 19:47
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If Developers Were Houses on Game of Thrones.

Really well done.

Show Spoilers:

Valve as the honorable house Stark. Good call. Let's hope they don't get destroyed like the Starks though.

Activision as House Baratheon: Wins the throne through martial prowess. LOL.

EA as the Lannisters. 'Nuff said.
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Jun 11, 2013, 17:27
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|RaptoR| wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 16:51:
Publishers have been given access to the technology and will pressure Sony to comply. I expect (and the rumblings already indicate as much, with Sony saying DRM will be up to publishers in a follow up) that this tech will be on the PS4 within a year.

They said the same thing before the event back in February, they have always said third party titles are up to the publisher. They can't really control what they do anyway, that expectation is unrealistic. Worst case scenario I get a cheaper, more powerful system. Sony has fucked up many times in the past but I can't ding them when they finally get it right. If that changes in the future then I'll bitch then and get something else.
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People have very short memories. Sony is out for the early "HOORAY" and support.

Remember backwards compatibility on the PS3 and how that was flushed down the toilet 6 months later?

How about Linux and an open platform?

Publishers have been given access to the technology and will pressure Sony to comply. I expect (and the rumblings already indicate as much, with Sony saying DRM will be up to publishers in a follow up) that this tech will be on the PS4 within a year.

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Jun 11, 2013, 15:03
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jdreyer wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 14:58:
ItBurn wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 13:12:
Bodolza wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 12:53:
Sorry, but that talk was not good. It was 9 minutes of off-topic bad jokes and 3 minutes of actual information.

TED used to be great, but for the last several years, it has started sucking, hard. I watched an interview with a guy who was a presenter there and he says that it's now a cult.
This particular talk wasn't very good. He could have explained his actual points in about 30 seconds and it would have been much clearer. Waste of 12 minutes. His points weren't that interesting either. I mean, we should think positively? No shit? A lot of fluff and unwanted entertainment.

Hmm, TED stands for "Technology, Entertainment, Design." The entertainment part is right there in the title.

I'm saying it lacks the Technology and Design...
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Jun 11, 2013, 14:58
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Jun 11, 2013, 14:58
 
ItBurn wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 13:12:
Bodolza wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 12:53:
Sorry, but that talk was not good. It was 9 minutes of off-topic bad jokes and 3 minutes of actual information.

TED used to be great, but for the last several years, it has started sucking, hard. I watched an interview with a guy who was a presenter there and he says that it's now a cult.
This particular talk wasn't very good. He could have explained his actual points in about 30 seconds and it would have been much clearer. Waste of 12 minutes. His points weren't that interesting either. I mean, we should think positively? No shit? A lot of fluff and unwanted entertainment.

Hmm, TED stands for "Technology, Entertainment, Design." The entertainment part is right there in the title.
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Jun 11, 2013, 14:58
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Jun 11, 2013, 14:58
 
Sony dunked this one (and MS) like Karl Malone back in the day. And I'm not even a Sony fan, I play games on PC or Android tablet. But the strategy and execution were great. They kept it really simple, and for once they listened to their audience and their PR people, who were both saying the same thing.

Gamers don't like systems that require always-on internet, they like to be able to trade in and buy used games, and they like good value. Gamers outside the US/Western Europe/Japan even more so. Sony gave the audience what they wanted, and in the process royally screwed MS, giving themselves a huge advantage for years to come. Easy win for them, all they had to do was nothing. Battle didn't start yet and it's already over.
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Jun 11, 2013, 14:55
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Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 12:16:
Off-topic, but worth sharing -- a TED talk on work happiness.

Wow, Mr. Tact, that really came, uh, out of the blue.

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Jun 11, 2013, 14:53
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ItBurn wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 09:53:
I watched it live. It was pretty damn epic. But the xbox has kinect! lol...

Fuck consoles though. Play on PC. Most games will come out for it and there's even some that are exclusive to a console, but also come out for PC.

Especially with this new generation of consoles being based entirely on x86 procs and AMD graphics. Much, much simpler and faster to port to PC. Unless the dev is owned by MS or Sony, expect to see a PC version concurrent or shortly thereafter.
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Jun 11, 2013, 14:39
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Jun 11, 2013, 14:39
 
Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 14:23:
ItBurn wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 13:50:
I feel that TED promises knowledge, science and stuff, but delivers fluff entertainment instead and that pisses me off a lot.
Well, there's the problem. I've never expected to learn anything of significance from a TED talk and reality has in this case met my expectations most of the time.

The first TED talks were amazing. They use that as a way to attract viewers, but they completely lost their way. There are still some good talks here and there...
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Jun 11, 2013, 14:36
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Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 14:23:
ItBurn wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 13:50:
I feel that TED promises knowledge, science and stuff, but delivers fluff entertainment instead and that pisses me off a lot.
Well, there's the problem. I've never expected to learn anything of significance from a TED talk and reality has in this case met my expectations most of the time.

Hahaha well put.
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Jun 11, 2013, 14:23
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Jun 11, 2013, 14:23
 
ItBurn wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 13:50:
I feel that TED promises knowledge, science and stuff, but delivers fluff entertainment instead and that pisses me off a lot.
Well, there's the problem. I've never expected to learn anything of significance from a TED talk and reality has in this case met my expectations most of the time.
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Jun 11, 2013, 14:19
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1badmf wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 12:20:
Cutter wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 11:53:
No, Sony is still being evasive.


ok you have got to be trolling at this point, cuz sony were pretty unequivocal about the major points. sure the publishers might DRM their games themselves, but they already do that on current gen. it's not at a system level; there's really no dancing around that.

You know, I wouldn't have to repeat myself all the time if you people paid attention. What Sony said was self-applied. Everything they stated was very carefully crafted and constructed. There were no broad and sweeping statements. Certainly nothing that could be held against them legally.

1) They said the same thing as MS as it applies to their games you can trade them without fees, let friends play them, etc. They did NOT say bupkiss about what publishers may or may not do.

2) Note they did not state that for multiplayer games you now have to pay for it same as MS Gold. How do you think that would have went over at their press conference.

3) They say you don't need to login once every 24 hours? What about beyond that? They also said nothing about advertising, data mining, etc.

So in fact there's a whole bunch of shit they haven't said that they can still do to give it to the consumer sans lube. So yes, until you see EVERYTHING in black and white, the final costs, etc. etc. etc. I wouldn't be patting Sony on the back just yet. And the fact that they've snuck a few things in and are still so evasive flashes a big red WARNING!!! sign IMO. Just wait until the other shoe drops. There will be more shit coming down the pipe with this, bank on it.

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Jun 11, 2013, 14:11
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Jun 11, 2013, 14:11
 
For $100 cheaper it's a game console that most of what I read says is a more powerful platform and doesn't have the same DRM restrictions. Microsoft would have to rename the One to the 180 and backtrack on half the things they've established for the thing.

Most of what they announced is going to be on PC anyway, so the only game I'm kind of bummed about is Dead Rising 3 (assuming that it doesn't hit PC later). I like my consoles and would normally buy both eventually, but I'm just not seeing any reason as to why I would want a One. Even the name is annoying the crap out of me when I try to write about it. Xbone? XB1?

Console Wars are pretty stupid, but that's when it's a sort of Coke/Pepsi thing. For this new stuff it's like the competitors aren't even in agreement as to what market they're fighting for.
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Jun 11, 2013, 13:59
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Jun 11, 2013, 13:59
 
Smart people notice the "Disc Based Games" - sure things continue as they are for those.

I honestly can't remember the last time I purchased a physical copy of a game for my PC - if it's not Steam, or in some indie bundle, I don't bother (simply not joining multiple online delivery services, sorry late comers).

It does strike me as odd that "Console Culture" still hangs on to physical media, but as I was explaining to a friend.... Buy, Beat, Trade is the way consoles have been as long as I can remember (who you traded them to simply changed).

I expect that "trade" will go away with physical media. Whether or not anything similar pops up for the digital arena will be interesting to watch.
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Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 13:42:
It wasn't my intent to imply the TED talk was educational or informative. I said, and thought, it was "worth sharing", apparently you disagree. I was pretty amused by it, as were the two people I shared it with directly. Oh well, different strokes and all that...

I'm not saying you're an idiot or an asshole. Only that there's strong indication that you are. I'm kidding :p

I feel that TED promises knowledge, science and stuff, but delivers fluff entertainment instead and that pisses me off a lot.
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Jun 11, 2013, 13:42
 
It wasn't my intent to imply the TED talk was educational or informative. I said, and thought, it was "worth sharing", apparently you disagree. I was pretty amused by it, as were the two people I shared it with directly. Oh well, different strokes and all that...
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Jun 11, 2013, 13:31
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You should check out The Onion Talks sometime on Youtube, they absolutely eviscerate TED Talks and most of their criticism is spot on.
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Jun 11, 2013, 13:12
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Jun 11, 2013, 13:12
 
Bodolza wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 12:53:
Sorry, but that talk was not good. It was 9 minutes of off-topic bad jokes and 3 minutes of actual information.

TED used to be great, but for the last several years, it has started sucking, hard. I watched an interview with a guy who was a presenter there and he says that it's now a cult.
This particular talk wasn't very good. He could have explained his actual points in about 30 seconds and it would have been much clearer. Waste of 12 minutes. His points weren't that interesting either. I mean, we should think positively? No shit? A lot of fluff and unwanted entertainment.
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Jun 11, 2013, 12:53
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Jun 11, 2013, 12:53
 
Sorry, but that talk was not good. It was 9 minutes of off-topic bad jokes and 3 minutes of actual information.
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Jun 11, 2013, 12:20
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Jun 11, 2013, 12:20
 
Cutter wrote on Jun 11, 2013, 11:53:
No, Sony is still being evasive.


ok you have got to be trolling at this point, cuz sony were pretty unequivocal about the major points. sure the publishers might DRM their games themselves, but they already do that on current gen. it's not at a system level; there's really no dancing around that.
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