Thief Production Issues? [Apr 26, 2013, 8:13 pm ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
A post
on Polygon calls the state of the Eidos Montreal's upcoming Thief reboot
into question, saying they've learned from "anonymous sources familiar with the
studio" that the project is suffering from inflated production costs and staff
departures attributed to "corporate politics, creative confusion and a lack of
publisher oversight." They say that the team has had to spend a lot of effort on
creating press demos, and that "many programming tricks" are required to run
their demo, going so far as to say "the vertical slice doesn't load inside
Thief's current heavily modified version of Unreal Engine 3," which is hard to
understand (it makes it sound like the demo doesn't actually run). They say that
Square Enix is growing concerned with this situation, noting that a portion of
the recent GDC demo video was to be released to the public, but a source tells
them this plan was scrapped because Square Enix was unhappy with the quality of
the footage. They conclude noting the game is still slated to be shown off at E3
this June.
Eidos, let's just re-release Thief 2 with improved graphics and AI and call it a day. I'll buy the shit tomorrow, thanks.
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Yeah, it has that feel to it doesn't it? They shouldn't be trying to reboot the series and reinvent Garret. If ain't broke, don't fix it.
lack of publisher oversight
What's the problem with this one?
FYI, I expect any proper PC Thief fan to know about The Dark Mod. You do know about it, right? Right?!!
I feel they plan to capitalise on the market that praised Dishonored, which I thought had stealth gameplay poorly implemented. The qualities that made the previous Thief games unique, I suspect, are exactly what the developers fear will restrict sales.
Hyatus wrote on Apr 26, 2013, 22:42:lack of publisher oversight
What's the problem with this one?
They apparently made a game the publisher didn't like...
Really, I think they did fine with the direction of Thief 3. A game like that with better graphics, a bigger city, and not broken up into separate levels every few yards to accommodate crappy console limitations would go over very well I think. Give me the choice between 1st and third person again, too.
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"...creative confusion and a lack of publisher oversight."
Read: It's not yet enough optimized for controllers, has not enough qte, and some features and parts of the story have to be cut for later dlcs. And the game in general has three situations that need the player to be stealthy which have to be changed to run-and-gun-sequences. YAY!
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Tanto Edge wrote on Apr 27, 2013, 00:49:Yep...
Here we go..
Sounds like karma issues to me.
That's what you get for taking games everyone loves and redesigning them to be all cool, mainstream & modern.
Oh and stop over-Desmondising the game!
clicky bit
That's what you get for taking games everyone loves and redesigning them to be all cool, mainstream & modern.
Oh and stop over-Desmondising the game!
clicky bit
Hyatus wrote on Apr 26, 2013, 22:42:It's fine if the developers are competent. If they're not, you end up with 5 years of hell.lack of publisher oversight
What's the problem with this one?
I can definitely confirm a report on this that it's very much true. I have a close friend who used to work for Eidos Montreal but he quit due to bad management and corporate politics. Their Thief game was rebooted already a number of times due to quality issues (the game/prototype did suck), and I mentioned it in Blues News comments even a couple years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be another situation like Duke Nukem Forever, which would be quite a shame for the Thief series really. Publisher SquareEnix has all the right to be unhappy and concerned.
Fantaz wrote on Apr 27, 2013, 05:20:Is this the same team which made Deus Ex HR?
I can definitely confirm a report on this that it's very much true. I have a close friend who used to work for Eidos Montreal but he quit due to bad management and corporate politics. Their Thief game was rebooted already a number of times due to quality issues (the game/prototype did suck), and I mentioned it in Blues News comments even a couple years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be another situation like Duke Nukem Forever, which would be quite a shame for the Thief series really. Publisher SquareEnix has all the right to be unhappy and concerned.
Kajetan wrote on Apr 27, 2013, 05:40:Fantaz wrote on Apr 27, 2013, 05:20:Is this the same team which made Deus Ex HR?
I can definitely confirm a report on this that it's very much true. I have a close friend who used to work for Eidos Montreal but he quit due to bad management and corporate politics. Their Thief game was rebooted already a number of times due to quality issues (the game/prototype did suck), and I mentioned it in Blues News comments even a couple years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be another situation like Duke Nukem Forever, which would be quite a shame for the Thief series really. Publisher SquareEnix has all the right to be unhappy and concerned.
I don't know but I could ask. I'd say probably not, because they were working on it at the same time they were doing Dues Ex HR so likely they're different teams working on them separately.
No, it's not the same team as the DX:HR one.
Anyway, I hope the game pulls through. What I read of the public demo sounded promising, even if it wasn't fully representative of the game. Irrational did the same thing with Bioshock Infinite (which also went through numerous delays) but the final game ended up being good.
Anyway, I hope the game pulls through. What I read of the public demo sounded promising, even if it wasn't fully representative of the game. Irrational did the same thing with Bioshock Infinite (which also went through numerous delays) but the final game ended up being good.
No no no they have to spend money to infect it with consolitis, that's the goal. It has to appeal to the modern gamer who likes action heavy violence.
Reform looking glass studios and give it to them to do it. Problem solved 
I always thought Garret was a cool character, and the new look is definitely Desmondised.
You can only be cool if you're not trying to be cool, but people think you're cool anyway. So stop trying Eidos! Didn't you learn this at school?
You can only be cool if you're not trying to be cool, but people think you're cool anyway. So stop trying Eidos! Didn't you learn this at school?
nin wrote on Apr 26, 2013, 23:40:Hyatus wrote on Apr 26, 2013, 22:42:lack of publisher oversight
What's the problem with this one?
They apparently made a game the publisher didn't like...
That either means they're way behind with just smoke and mirrors, or the design isn't actiony enough.
I'll go out on a limb and hypothesize the problem is not that it's not Thiefy enough.
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