So, Bush was the equivalent of someone you consider to be a narcissistic community organizer with delusions of grandeur? Good to know.

Cutter wrote on Apr 25, 2013, 18:01:
We already no what the other side would have done, however, we being the other side of that expected more from Obama and he's clearly shown that all his talk was exactly that, so much talk. Forget the conomy, health care, yada yada yada, but this was the shit that he wasn't supposed to allow.

Hate to say I told you so but um I told you so. You could call Obama Bush the 3rd and it wouldn't be that far off. This is what happens when you elect a narcissistic community organizer with delusions of grandeur.

We already no what the other side would have done, however, we being the other side of that expected more from Obama and he's clearly shown that all his talk was exactly that, so much talk. Forget the conomy, health care, yada yada yada, but this was the shit that he wasn't supposed to allow.

ZeroCougar wrote on Apr 25, 2013, 08:48:
Ohh yeah cause the other guy who nearly made it into office was of a higher caliber of morality that he would never allow this. Don't throw that Obama is the cause of this, BS on anybody but your own self. With the recent school shooting and with the Boston bombing, Which would happen under any president btw... This kind of spying is going to make it through. Scared government, does scary things to its own people, in an attempt to protect the people. Its how it goes.

If DOMA goes away I'll vote for Obama again. I want to be with my wife, more then worry about this privacy-policy bull. I admit that much bias.

So Obama preached all this hope and change and transparency within government, lied about it all to begin with (like most people knew anyways) And now pushes for things like drone attacks and secret surveillance and he shouldn't be held accountable? Oh right I forgot it's only republicans who are evil.

Btw you can't vote for Obama again, 2 term limit, unless he tries to change that as well, which wouldn't at all surprise me at this point.

Yeah, Romney never would have given immunity to telcos for wiretapping at the government's behest. Never! Wait, what? Oh, as long as the telcos are paid for their services? Nevermind...

Ohh yeah cause the other guy who nearly made it into office was of a higher caliber of morality that he would never allow this. Don't throw that Obama is the cause of this, BS on anybody but your own self. With the recent school shooting and with the Boston bombing, Which would happen under any president btw... This kind of spying is going to make it through. Scared government, does scary things to its own people, in an attempt to protect the people. Its how it goes.

If DOMA goes away I'll vote for Obama again. I want to be with my wife, more then worry about this privacy-policy bull. I admit that much bias.

Cutter wrote on Apr 24, 2013, 22:07:

Senior Obama administration officials have secretly authorized the interception of communications carried on portions of networks operated by AT&T and other Internet service providers, a practice that might otherwise be illegal under federal wiretapping laws.

The secret legal authorization from the Justice Department originally applied to a cybersecurity pilot project in which the military monitored defense contractors' Internet links. Since then, however, the program has been expanded by President Obama to cover all critical infrastructure sectors including energy, healthcare, and finance starting June 12.

"The Justice Department is helping private companies evade federal wiretap laws," said Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, which obtained over 1,000 pages of internal government documents and provided them to CNET this week. "Alarm bells should be going off."

Those documents show the National Security Agency and the Defense Department were deeply involved in pressing for the secret legal authorization, with NSA director Keith Alexander participating in some of the discussions personally. Despite initial reservations, including from industry participants, Justice Department attorneys eventually signed off on the project.

Hope and change, my ass.

But but OBUMA GONNA PAY MY MORTGAGE! I told you guys that you were all a bunch of suckers. Too bad you didn't listen. All hail emperor Obama 2016!

Yosemite Sam wrote on Apr 24, 2013, 23:56:
So Mr Orwell was correct, just off by a few decades. With built in web cams included with everything now they can literally watch what you are doing, anytime, anywhere... I thought the second amendment guaranteed that would never happen, right?

No the 2nd amendment was there so you had something to defend your rights with, not that any would have done anything other than shooting yourselves in the feet. Now there's nothing left for you armchair jingoists but the 2nd, good priorities, glad you guys decided to start caring when they threaten to whittle away the real rights, like your right to handle your shiny cock compensators.

With built in web cams included with everything now they can literally watch what you are doing, anytime, anywhere... I thought the second amendment guaranteed that would never happen, right?

The right to bear webcams? What?

So Mr Orwell was correct, just off by a few decades. With built in web cams included with everything now they can literally watch what you are doing, anytime, anywhere... I thought the second amendment guaranteed that would never happen, right?

Ok seriously could you guys get your government under some control? Our government up here is watching all this stuff with envy. Stop giving them ideas!

I used to be a consultant with a defense contractor. I can't discuss what I worked on, but I have to wonder how they monitor links. I'm guessing that they monitored work site networks which use AT&T, but I wonder if they intercepted my private surfing. I'd like to know more about this.

I feel sorry for the USA, they just seem to be getting paranoid and mentally ill from a Gov. point of view which is scary for the rest of us. They see their own people as enemies

"Dems Terrorists is Every wheres!"

Senior Obama administration officials have secretly authorized the interception of communications carried on portions of networks operated by AT&T and other Internet service providers, a practice that might otherwise be illegal under federal wiretapping laws.

The secret legal authorization from the Justice Department originally applied to a cybersecurity pilot project in which the military monitored defense contractors' Internet links. Since then, however, the program has been expanded by President Obama to cover all critical infrastructure sectors including energy, healthcare, and finance starting June 12.

"The Justice Department is helping private companies evade federal wiretap laws," said Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, which obtained over 1,000 pages of internal government documents and provided them to CNET this week. "Alarm bells should be going off."

Those documents show the National Security Agency and the Defense Department were deeply involved in pressing for the secret legal authorization, with NSA director Keith Alexander participating in some of the discussions personally. Despite initial reservations, including from industry participants, Justice Department attorneys eventually signed off on the project.

Hope and change, my ass.