Rattlehead wrote on Mar 26, 2013, 22:37:
I really hope they go back to the huge ass maps of Battlefield 2 and Armored Kill. Infantry combat is just so terrible and boring.

See I find TDM and Squad DM a lot of fun, so to each their own.
To me the infantry combat is the best I've seen since CS: Source.
I only wish they had a last man standing mode ala CS

Hunting down snipers was never fun, ever. In any game, ever. Until BF3 came and made sniping a trade-off, Zoom in too long = get spotted, have lower mag sight = aim is not 100% accurate.

What you call dumbing down balances out a class that shouldn't even be in the game. Snipers who play the RECON class as CAMP THERE class add nothing to BF3. A good recon spots, marks and plays with squad. A bad recon runs around with a sniper rifle on some hill 2km from the objective, puts his spawn beacon there and then wonders why the squad mates rage quit his squad.

Also, these snipers usually don't get a single kill during the game. Because hitting anything at 2km is hard And if they were good shots, they wouldn't be sitting on a hill.

Obvious marketing ploy to setup for Battlefield 4......Call the last addon....END GAME.....gg

I used to be a huge fan of the BF games but they have failed to expand over the years. The mission sizes should be huge by this day and age. There's just too much going on with 64 players in such small zones.

Also, the game has been completely dumbed down. The scope glare is a perfect example of this fact. What ever happened to days when PC MP games were hard? Hunting down snipers used to be challenging. The more times they would kill us, the more satisfying it would be when we finally located them and then killed them. Now, all one needs to do is look in their general direction and you can see a giant scope glare shining at you. That's just lame.

I sure hope that the scope glare s gone in BF4, but I'm sure Dice will just add more dumbed down "features" too suck in more noobs who don't want a proper challenge.

More scripted boringness. The opfor guys in this vid look an awful lot like the opfor in BF3's MP. I would have loved it if the single player was more like Ghost Recon (the original) where you could choose your own path and they had real AI. That in these pretty environments would be amazing.

17 minutes BF4 single player gameplay video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6hlIeNdijs

Looks nice but I am not really impressed tbh

I uninstalled BF3 a while ago for a few reasons such as Origin, EA support, and cheating. I haven't really kept up with the addons, have any actually been worth it?

wow ppl are still dumb enough to buy these BF addons, just before they annouce a new game..

With BF4 soon to be announced (already?), this is intentionally ironic DLC naming from EA it would seem.

Gamestop has leaked screens and as expected it literally looks more of the same.

I really hope they go back to the huge ass maps of Battlefield 2 and Armored Kill. Infantry combat is just so terrible and boring.

Flak wrote on Mar 26, 2013, 22:01:
Ahh, I thought CTF might actually have a chance, but of course the shining BF3 community managed to ruin it.

CTF matches end up being 80% of each team spawn camping each other behind the enemy flag, they don't even attempt to capture the flag, they just sit in the back of the spawn and kill people as they come in. Don't know if I should blame the dumbass people who play this game or the dumbass developer who made the game and allow this type of spawn camping behavior.

That is CTF, period. I can't think of one game that has made CTF enjoyable. Only way CFT has been fun is 32man max, playing with 3 friends.

I actually like End Game, its not great but decent, and i'm 100% an infantry player (i have like 200K score from vehicles and over 8M as just medic). It's no B2K or Aftermath but its not Armoured Kill either (AK was utter crap).

Ahh, I thought CTF might actually have a chance, but of course the shining BF3 community managed to ruin it.

CTF matches end up being 80% of each team spawn camping each other behind the enemy flag, they don't even attempt to capture the flag, they just sit in the back of the spawn and kill people as they come in. Don't know if I should blame the dumbass people who play this game or the dumbass developer who made the game and allow this type of spawn camping behavior.

Yeah, endgame just felt like rocket spam to me. Vehicles with rockets shooting everywhere, javelin's locking onto motorbikes everywhere, it was just an explosive mess. Aftermath and CQB were my favorites.

Hmm I like the maps in conquest, ctf really depends on how much teamwork is taking place. The rush mode for the maps are lacking.

anyways

EA has confirmed with us Battlefield 4 will be available for pre-order starting at 10pm PST on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 on the digital-distribution site Origin.

Along with the news of the standard edition being available for pre-order, the ‘Digital Deluxe Edition’ was also detailed. The DDE will include “access to the Exclusive Battlefield 4 Beta, Bonus Content, as well as the a Battlefield 4 Premium Expansion Pack” according to EA. The Digital Deluxe Edition is available exclusively on Origin.

Fans will be able to pre-order their copies of Battlefield 4 later this evening. We will have more information on the exact contents of the digital offerings when it is made available by EA.

Although the promotion is not live as of yet, it will be at 10pm PST.

Aftermath was the best by far. End Game was disappointment. The vehicles ruin CTF, and the maps are horrible for Conquest since they were really made for CTF.