Taskeen wrote on Feb 21, 2013, 17:41:
Deus Ex to me was never "Cyber Punk," it is a somewhat realistic view of the future of Humanity in the context of our times.

The context of Cyberpunk has always been just that. A scifi more rooted to modern day societies; a future world not so far away that paints a picture which already carries an eerily close resemblance to these strange days we live in.
The first cyberpunk novels and the the tabletop RPG depicted a world where the nation state has become irrelevant, and huge multinational corporations run amok without any regard for the rule of law. That's pretty much the world we live in right now. Nation states are being held hostage by too big to fail banks, that can pretty much do ANYTHING they please without facing any consequences.

As far as Deus Ex goes, it was so ahead of its time back in the day, it's crazy when you think about it. Not talking about the gameplay elements here. I think everyone here can appreciate that side. I'm talking about the setting and the plotline. All those conspiracy theories that were introduced within the game, only started to go mainstream after 9/11 and the advent of fast broadband truly hitting everyday household.

I'm interested, I'm always hopeful someone will do the VG to movie thing right and Deus Ex is an interesting IP to make an attempt with.

siapnar wrote on Feb 21, 2013, 14:12:
The track record of the director and writer instills... zero faith

This. I don't understand why they bother. Save it, it could be a cash cow with someone decent at the helm.

Yeah, one of the few gripes (and I can't disagree) with HR is you're allowed to totally take a stealth upgrade path, but you still end up boss fights. Typhoon allows you to end any(*) boss fight quickly and get back to being stealthy.


*Welllll...unless you make one bad decision at a certain point.

nin wrote on Feb 21, 2013, 19:37:

I'm playing total stealth so don't keep guns and then I have to battle this biatch... well I keep guns now.

Typhoon x2 and you're done.

Can't, been using all my upgrades for hacking, inventory and other things. But nice to know, thanks. I'll save up for that upgrade next.

Blade Runner is not really cyberpunk, aesthetics aside. Certainly, theres nothing cyberpunk wbout the source material. And if you guys had read the actual interview, you would know that the writers specifically did reference Gibson and Stephenson. A direct-to-movie adaptation would suck horribly, so the fact that they're avoiding this approach gives me some optimism about the project. Here's hoping this movie won't suck like every single game movie ever.

Verno wrote on Feb 21, 2013, 08:55:
There's also a really awful looking COH movie coming out that's direct to dvd starring Tom Sizemore and Vinnie Jones.

I am sure it will end up being bad, but with Neal McDonough, Vinnie Jones, and Tom Sizemore I am hoping it will at least have some campy enjoyability.

Trevellian wrote on Feb 21, 2013, 12:41:

Cutter wrote on Feb 21, 2013, 12:07:
Yeah, no one ever really thinks about Strange Days but it was a good flick, and it was right on the beginning cusp of cyberpunk. And lets not overlook all the great cyberpunk animation out there, Ghost in the Shell, Akira, et al.

Shirow is the man when it comes to cyberpunk, my personal favorite still being Appleseed. No I don't mean the CGI Anime and it's sequel, though I did enjoy both being a long time Appleseed fan. I own the original 4 Appleseed books that ran from 85-91, long before he ever imagined Ghost in the Shell he was already defining Cyberpunk.

Heh, I'm not even remotely down with Manga or whatever the hell it is now. I just know that GitS and Akira were pretty effing awesome!

I'm playing total stealth so don't keep guns and then I have to battle this biatch... well I keep guns now.

Typhoon x2 and you're done.

I'm just getting into HR, alright so far. First city hub kinda lame. Map totally sucks balls, is it that friken hard to leave markers to places I might want to go back to? took me half an hour the other night just to find the damn store. Boss battle was WTF. I'm playing total stealth so don't keep guns and then I have to battle this biatch... well I keep guns now. A well done movie with this IP would be sweet, but based on the shit that was the earth stood still remake I'm not holding my breath.

Sho wrote on Feb 21, 2013, 09:33:
The obvious Blade Runner aside, I think one of the best cyberpunk movies was actually Strange Days ...

Strange Days is good b/c it was directed by Kathryn Bigelow (Zero Dark 30) and written by some dude name James Cameron. Having writers and directors who know what they're doing helps.

While Cargill and Derrickson don't have the best track record (Sinister was just okay), I know Cargill is a huge geek who has spent decades steeped in the geek culture. He loves the material, so there's hope he'll really treat the story as a labor of love. I'm hoping this turns out good.

A movie made COMPLETELY faithful to the moral and background story of Deus Ex would be controversial. Technically, it still could be considered that with all its background conspiracies that have some truth in the real world. Then there is real kicker, the groups in Deus Ex that take up arms against the government and are branded "Terrorists." You bet your ass I would see that movie, but I doubt something that good would be made. Deus Ex to me was never "Cyber Punk," it is a somewhat realistic view of the future of Humanity in the context of our times.

I cringe a little every time Deus Ex is mentioned to be made into a film. The original should NOT be made into a movie period. I've see no actor that could portray JC the way the game does.

If it's Human Revolution they make into a film then they may have a chance since Jensen seems to be more human. People could relate to him more, even after being augmented then they could with JC. I think Jensen would be easier for an actor to portray with success. On top of that, the plot is less complex than the original was imo.

The track record of the director and writer instills... zero faith

MajorD wrote on Feb 21, 2013, 11:28:
Not on NetFlix,

They have the DVD, it's not Oscar material but it's worth a watch.

Cutter wrote on Feb 21, 2013, 12:07:
Yeah, no one ever really thinks about Strange Days but it was a good flick, and it was right on the beginning cusp of cyberpunk. And lets not overlook all the great cyberpunk animation out there, Ghost in the Shell, Akira, et al.

Shirow is the man when it comes to cyberpunk, my personal favorite still being Appleseed. No I don't mean the CGI Anime and it's sequel, though I did enjoy both being a long time Appleseed fan. I own the original 4 Appleseed books that ran from 85-91, long before he ever imagined Ghost in the Shell he was already defining Cyberpunk.

This comment was edited on Feb 21, 2013, 12:47.

Yeah, no one ever really thinks about Strange Days but it was a good flick, and it was right on the beginning cusp of cyberpunk. And lets not overlook all the great cyberpunk animation out there, Ghost in the Shell, Akira, et al.

What I really liked about Strange Days was the magnificent cold open introducing the central conceit and how the characters all just take the tech for granted, if you had that film made today they'd play up the gimmick factor to no end, but SD actually made it feel like a credible part of the film's world ... and then there was all this turn of the millennium angst in it of society collapsing in on it self, also very cyberpunky ...

MajorD wrote on Feb 21, 2013, 11:28:

nin wrote on Feb 21, 2013, 09:37:

Sho wrote on Feb 21, 2013, 09:33:
The obvious Blade Runner aside, I think one of the best cyberpunk movies was actually Strange Days ...

I love that flick, very underrated. I'm not sure I'd call it cyberpunk, but it was a neat story, and I could easily see entertainment eventually broadcasting directly into the skull.

I need to watch that again.

edit: Damn, no blu remster yet.

Hmmmmm....I'm not sure I've ever seen it. Not on NetFlix, but found it here

I might just have to grab it and check it out.

I found a german blu here (curiously labeled "uncut") so hopefully it'll make its way over here soon.

Teaser trailer if you're on the fence

nin wrote on Feb 21, 2013, 09:37:

Sho wrote on Feb 21, 2013, 09:33:
The obvious Blade Runner aside, I think one of the best cyberpunk movies was actually Strange Days ...

I love that flick, very underrated. I'm not sure I'd call it cyberpunk, but it was a neat story, and I could easily see entertainment eventually broadcasting directly into the skull.

I need to watch that again.

edit: Damn, no blu remster yet.

Hmmmmm....I'm not sure I've ever seen it. Not on NetFlix, but found it here

I might just have to grab it and check it out.