Chairman Kaga wrote on Jan 11, 2013, 14:11:
RollinThundr wrote on Jan 11, 2013, 12:08:
You're missing the forest from the trees, a corrupt political faction in the US could push to become a totalitarian state, the only way they would succeed at that is to first strip US citizens of their guns. That's why the 2nd amendment is in place, to prevent that from ever happening.
And do you honestly think you, or any other cabal of armed insurrection, stand any sort of chance should the US decide to turn its current military power on its own citizens? Your pistols and shotguns against guys with M4s, body armor, drones, and cruise missiles. Let me know how that goes. Probably about as well as my last game of XCOM.
As much as I am with you on the heart and soul and purpose of the Second Amendment, one must also concede that it has been rendered obsolete by technological progress and economies of scale. We are already at the full mercy of this government, for better or worse.
The most dangerous people in America are these nutters like Alex Jones, which combine the fantasy of the Second Amendment in the modern age with the mental instability of rampant conspiracist thought.
Let's see, how did Vietnam work out for us? And Iraq, nobody is still fighting there, right? And Afghanistan, those guys are clearly surrendering, just like they did to the Soviets in the 80s.
For all our military might, we have been unable to win the war on drugs, the war on terrorism, and countless other actions. Sure, we could bomb the citizens into submission, but what would the ruling class rule then? Smoking wastelands? That wouldn't be much of a victory.
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