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Verno wrote on Jan 10, 2013, 10:05:
I tend to largely avoid [the BSN forums] these days, myself. Why? Because spending too much time there starts to make me feel negative—not just about the games we make, but about myself and life in general. That's not a good feeling to have. I'm sure there are folks there who would bristle at that comment, suggesting that all negative feedback is justifiable and that ignoring it is the equivalent of us sticking our heads in the sand. How will we ever improve unless we listen to their scolding and take our lumps like good little developers? That is, of course, ignoring the idea that we haven't already digested a mountain of feedback—both positive and negative—and there's really only so much of it you can take. Eventually you make decisions (informed by that feedback, though only in part- it can only ever be in part) and move on.

First of all, this clown lives on those forums so who is he kidding, everyone knows hes going to be there no matter what. He was a big part of ruining EAs marketing efforts for DA2 even, trumpeting ridiculous feature changes as revolutionary and trying to justify the shittier elements in the game. It's funny how when everyone was a sycophant tonguing his balls that he thought feedback was worthwhile but now that those people have turned into angry detractors it's time to move on with the "design" and ignore them.

He's not really been there anymore a lot, and I can kind of see what he's saying. It's gotta be tough when people slag your work, justified or not. (And I don't think the writing was really the problem with DA2. It wasn't stellar or anything, but also not what made the game kinda meh. There were some very well-written quests and NPCs in the game, and I actually really enjoyed the main Mages vs Templars storyline, plus the final reveal that (secret) it was the idol YOU found in the Deep Roads that caused Meredith to go insane.

On the flip side: "Yet the signal-to-noise ratio does seem to be worsening"

Well, you think maybe that has something to do with the quality of your games there, David? And that all of your colleagues continued to arrogantly insist that if someone didn't like DA2 (or ME3, for that matter), that it was a case of people "going in with wrong expectations?"

I KNEW what I was getting going into DA2, and yet I was still pretty disappointed at how little of it stands out, and how totally terrifyingly bland ALL the art work in it is. Is that wrong expectations too? Or is the game really not that great, and quite frankly a blemish on the Dragon Age name?

His point on the forums, however, is well taken. It's a cesspool. It never was a great haven of original debate, but it used to be you could at least get a decent discussion going every now and then. Now it's 50% people who are still so pissed off over the ME3 ending and how poor DA2 was (compared to Origins) that they keep slagging everything, and then there's the 50% fluffjob fanboys who keep slagging the other 50% and trying to pretend that no, really, DA2 was a better game than Origins.

The ME3 MP forum was a good place to be for awhile, until the dozen or so top players turned it into a "Everything must be exactly the same for BALANCE otherwise the game will die" wankfest.

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