Deus Ex Design Documents

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An article on Eurogamer.net called the "The deleted scenes of Deus Ex," examines Warren Spector's original design documents for Deus Ex, ION Storm's cyberpunk action/RPG. The look at various changes the project took from the original outline, leading lead writer Sheldon Pacotti to say "Warren once commented that in the beginning he envisioned the game as X-Files but he somehow ended up with James Bond." They also note the original working title of Deus Ex was Majestic Revelations, which might seem like a classic now had it stuck, but sounds pretty awful.

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Re: Deus Ex Design Documents

Jan 9, 2013, 02:48

Jerykk

bhcompy wrote on Jan 7, 2013, 15:25: Jerykk wrote on Jan 7, 2013, 01:37: Also, the fixation on story is never a good thing. Conviction did that and we ended up with a much more linear and scripted game than before. Gameplay should dictate story, not vice versa. It's a Clancy game. They've been awful since Red Storm was bought out. No, Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory and Rainbow Six 3 were good. Things only started going downhill after that.

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Jan 7, 2013, 15:25

bhcompy

Jerykk wrote on Jan 7, 2013, 01:37: Also, the fixation on story is never a good thing. Conviction did that and we ended up with a much more linear and scripted game than before. Gameplay should dictate story, not vice versa. It's a Clancy game. They've been awful since Red Storm was bought out.

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Jan 7, 2013, 13:24

Riker

Creston wrote on Jan 7, 2013, 11:04: ...getting Warren's ass on a Star Wars inspired Deus Ex game... Disney: do this (assuming you mean a Deus Ex-inspired Star Wars game).

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Jan 7, 2013, 11:04

Creston

Fantaz wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 23:05: You say you have no idea about #2, but that's because you know you won't play it. Remember what Warren said earlier, that after this he'll already be working on Epic Mickey 3? I can't imagine it being that much better. I have no idea about #2 because I never HAVE played it. I played the first one for awhile over at a friend's house, and I thought it was okay. I doubt that I'm really the market for it, but I thought the open world elements worked well, and it looked good. The 2d platforming, eh... (then again, I've never liked platforming, so...) Said person never bought Mickey 2, so that's why I can't really comment. But yeah, if he's now going to make Mickey 3, then he's really, really fallen very far. I guess that's all Disney will let him do. Instead of some shitwick there getting Warren's ass on a Star Wars inspired Deus Ex game, no, let's have him do ANOTHER Mickey Mouse game, because, you know, that IP still inspires so many people? Creston

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Re: Deus Ex Design Documents

Jan 7, 2013, 10:58

Creston

Rigs wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 22:59: Holy crap, Creston, did you know you have more comments than your User ID number?! =-Rigs-= Did you ever look at nin's? Or bat's? Creston

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Re: Deus Ex Design Documents

Jan 7, 2013, 09:16

Riker

Awesome! Can't wait to read this.

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Re: Deus Ex Design Documents

Jan 7, 2013, 01:37

Jerykk

jacobvandy wrote on Jan 7, 2013, 00:39: Re: Random shit -- Ubisoft isn't using Michael Ironside for the new Splinter Cell because he's old and feeble. As if their super-advanced mo-cap and lip-synch technology doesn't support voice dubbing. Yeah, it's a pretty flimsy excuse. I'm pretty sure Ironside didn't do the mo-cap for any of the previous games so why is this one any different? Also, the fixation on story is never a good thing. Conviction did that and we ended up with a much more linear and scripted game than before. Gameplay should dictate story, not vice versa.

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Re: Deus Ex Design Documents

Jan 7, 2013, 00:39

jacobvandy

Re: Random shit -- Ubisoft isn't using Michael Ironside for the new Splinter Cell because he's old and feeble. As if their super-advanced mo-cap and lip-synch technology doesn't support voice dubbing.

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Re: Deus Ex Design Documents

Jan 6, 2013, 23:47

The Half Elf

90% of Epic Mickey was outsourced, so take Deus Ex HR's Boss fights x10 and that is what ya get. I'd like to play it but again these really crappy Nintendo Wii or Wii U exclusives suck.




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Re: Deus Ex Design Documents

Jan 6, 2013, 23:05

Fantaz

Creston wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 15:14: Fantaz wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 13:33: How does Warren Spector go from System Shock to Epic Mickey 2? Epic fails... Epic Mickey really isn't that bad a game. No idea about #2, but one was pretty decent. It's just marginal steps, and suddenly you're doing stuff that nobody could have ever seen you doing. Look at Richard Garriott: His latest game was a fucking poker game for Facebook. As for the name, yeah, that would have sucked. Imagine Majestic Revelations:Human Revolution. Urk. Edit : Fixed tag. Creston It's really a bad game... already the price dropped down to $19 here from $59 for all platforms. You can see the general consensus shows that it got an average of 60%, but user score average is lower being at 4.3/10. (Metacritic link.) That's already a travesty. Ask a game store how many copies they sold and they'll tell you nobody's buying it, sales is very low. You say you have no idea about #2, but that's because you know you won't play it. Remember what Warren said earlier, that after this he'll already be working on Epic Mickey 3? I can't imagine it being that much better.

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Re: Deus Ex Design Documents

Jan 6, 2013, 22:59

Rigs

Holy crap, Creston, did you know you have more comments than your User ID number?! Worship

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Jan 6, 2013, 20:57

The Half Elf

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Re: Deus Ex Design Documents

Jan 6, 2013, 20:35

Rigs

I feel like an adult sitting in a mall food court and all the kids are laughing at a joke I don't get...

=-Rigs-=




'Now we gave you a promise! And we are bound by that promise. And damn you for asking for it! And damn me for agreeing to it! And damn all of us to Hell because that is exactly where we're going!' -John Sheridan, 'And All My Dreams Torn Asunder', B5

Re: Deus Ex Design Documents

Jan 6, 2013, 18:24

Orphic Resonance

Kosumo wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 17:55: I thought thats was fuck'n funny (Rollin Thundr light jab at Creston tag) Blues News, Good Times. i suppose thats why someone invented that word "tragicomic" a couple thousand years ago

Re: Deus Ex Design Documents

Jan 6, 2013, 17:55

Kosumo

I thought thats was fuck'n funny (Rollin Thundr light jab at Creston tag) Blues News, Good Times.

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Jan 6, 2013, 17:23

RollinThundr

Creston wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 17:12: Awww and now you're on the dipshit list. Bye! Creston Lighten up Francis.

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Jan 6, 2013, 17:23

nin

Creston wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 17:12:
Awww and now you're on the dipshit list. Bye!

Creston

He wasn't already? Really?!




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Re: Deus Ex Design Documents

Jan 6, 2013, 17:12

Creston

Awww and now you're on the dipshit list. Bye! Creston

Re: Deus Ex Design Documents

Jan 6, 2013, 15:59

RollinThundr

Creston wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 15:14: Fantaz wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 13:33: How does Warren Spector go from System Shock to Epic Mickey 2? Epic fails... Epic Mickey really isn't that bad a game. No idea about #2, but one was pretty decent. It's just marginal steps, and suddenly you're doing stuff that nobody could have ever seen you doing. Look at Richard Garriott: His latest game was a fucking poker game for Facebook. As for the name, yeah, that would have sucked. Imagine Majestic Revelations:Human Revolution. Urk. Creston We know who you are creston, no need to not only bold but increase the font while signing your posts on a gaming site.

Re: Deus Ex Design Documents

Jan 6, 2013, 15:14

Creston

Fantaz wrote on Jan 6, 2013, 13:33: How does Warren Spector go from System Shock to Epic Mickey 2? Epic fails... Epic Mickey really isn't that bad a game. No idea about #2, but one was pretty decent. It's just marginal steps, and suddenly you're doing stuff that nobody could have ever seen you doing. Look at Richard Garriott: His latest game was a fucking poker game for Facebook. As for the name, yeah, that would have sucked. Imagine Majestic Revelations:Human Revolution. Urk. Edit : Fixed tag. Creston This comment was edited on Jan 6, 2013, 17:18.

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