Optional Nickname! wrote on Dec 15, 2012, 10:46:

Mordecai Walfish wrote on Dec 15, 2012, 06:41:
I use precision x to overclock my gtx-480 by 133mhz on the core and 172mhz for the memory, and to apply a custom fan curve to keep it below 85 degrees when running full power. I did not realize that it auto-applied overclocks to the card when running the "frame target" at a number higher than what your card is capable of. Interesting, but otherwise useless for me because I like to be in control of the overclock being applied.

Here's a bit on the 'dynamic clocking' of PSX

"Frame Rate Target will essentially try and cap the frame rate to whatever you set it to. The clock speeds on the card will automatically dynamically adjust based on what is needed to maintain that frame rate at any given time. So if the demand is lower, then the card will downclock because that's all that it needs to maintain that FPS, or vice versa.. boost the clocks to maintain that frame rate under a more 3D intensive scene, for example. Useful for saving power and also for older games/applications which don't demand super high frame rates..."

My point I'm trying to make is not that PSX is perfect, but the GFO has a surprising lack of functionality compared to not only other programs available, including nvidia's own control panel options.

Mordecai Walfish wrote on Dec 15, 2012, 06:41:
I use precision x to overclock my gtx-480 by 133mhz on the core and 172mhz for the memory, and to apply a custom fan curve to keep it below 85 degrees when running full power. I did not realize that it auto-applied overclocks to the card when running the "frame target" at a number higher than what your card is capable of. Interesting, but otherwise useless for me because I like to be in control of the overclock being applied.

Quinn wrote on Dec 14, 2012, 07:31:

Optional Nickname! wrote on Dec 14, 2012, 01:08:

Mordecai Walfish wrote on Dec 12, 2012, 21:18:
FPS target is a frame limiter, I thought. You cant set it to 80 fps and magically optimize the game to run at 80FPS, for example. You will need to change graphics options to do that, which is what the nVidia program is designed to assist users to do.

GeForce Optimizer: "Use these settings (in these few games) that others have found acceptable" and "We will lower your IQ to get higher FPS"

Precision X : "Use whatever settings you like including those found above and we will improve your cards performance to reach your desired FPS if possible." and "In any app"

Precision X has greater functionality than a mere 'performance bucket' reference table. Precision X can improve your cards performance, the GeForce Optimizer ironically can not.

Precision X's only limitation is it's EVGA requirement, RivaTuner is the any-nvidia brand equivalent.

So it's basically like ATI overdrive or any other software that pushes your GPU to its limits. I have always -- always! -- had issues with these things. It makes my computer unstable somehow.

I find all that software that "monitors" your hardware a pile of crap. How many times I've had my GPU crash because it got to hot, only to increase the fanspeed AFTER the fucking crash. It's so tiresome. I've turned my back and walked away from that PC raping bullshit. Never noticed significant performance increases anyway.

Optional Nickname! wrote on Dec 14, 2012, 01:08:

Mordecai Walfish wrote on Dec 12, 2012, 21:18:
FPS target is a frame limiter, I thought. You cant set it to 80 fps and magically optimize the game to run at 80FPS, for example. You will need to change graphics options to do that, which is what the nVidia program is designed to assist users to do.

GeForce Optimizer: "Use these settings (in these few games) that others have found acceptable" and "We will lower your IQ to get higher FPS"

Precision X : "Use whatever settings you like including those found above and we will improve your cards performance to reach your desired FPS if possible." and "In any app"

Precision X has greater functionality than a mere 'performance bucket' reference table. Precision X can improve your cards performance, the GeForce Optimizer ironically can not.

Precision X's only limitation is it's EVGA requirement, RivaTuner is the any-nvidia brand equivalent.

Mordecai Walfish wrote on Dec 12, 2012, 21:18:
FPS target is a frame limiter, I thought. You cant set it to 80 fps and magically optimize the game to run at 80FPS, for example. You will need to change graphics options to do that, which is what the nVidia program is designed to assist users to do.

Quinn wrote on Dec 13, 2012, 05:24:
I spoke too soon, then. Thought 'twas a fact. No idea what my source was all those years back.

Still, not that it matters a single fuck whether you play a game on 60 or 80 or 120. Not even if you're in an FPS clan either. Been there done that. To me, at least, 60 fps is 100% smooth gameplay.

Quinn wrote on Dec 13, 2012, 05:24:
I spoke too soon, then. Thought 'twas a fact. No idea what my source was all those years back.

Still, not that it matters a single fuck whether you play a game on 60 or 80 or 120. Not even if you're in an FPS clan either. Been there done that. To me, at least, 60 fps is 100% smooth gameplay.

Quinn wrote on Dec 13, 2012, 03:56:
The human eye can't notice any difference between 60 fps and above..

Optional Nickname! wrote on Dec 12, 2012, 18:09:

Mordecai Walfish wrote on Dec 12, 2012, 09:41:

Optional Nickname! wrote on Dec 12, 2012, 09:07:

NegaDeath wrote on Dec 12, 2012, 00:43:
That's overclocking software though, the nvidia thing is different.

Obviously, you have never used Precision X. It's somewhat more than only clock speed adjustments, but you are right in that it does not change individual app settings in the app itself.

It's something completely different than what we are talking about here.. I think that was the point.

My non-argumentative point is that Precision X can and does have a feature where you can pick your desired FPS target in a game which is the desired end result of the nVidia app which likely does a table look-up of your hardware configuration. The two programs share that same feature, but different methods.

Precision X does not change your config.ini of your game, but neither does the nVidia app I suspect...either way, nVidia's app only does this for a few games, where Precision X does it for any game/app.

Mordecai Walfish wrote on Dec 12, 2012, 09:41:

Optional Nickname! wrote on Dec 12, 2012, 09:07:

NegaDeath wrote on Dec 12, 2012, 00:43:
That's overclocking software though, the nvidia thing is different.

Obviously, you have never used Precision X. It's somewhat more than only clock speed adjustments, but you are right in that it does not change individual app settings in the app itself.

It's something completely different than what we are talking about here.. I think that was the point.

Maybe you're an old man, but please don't be one of those men that's intimidated by the latest tech. It's insulting

Prez wrote on Dec 12, 2012, 07:02:

Well then you learned something valuable from this today, as you can *always* set AF to 16x in any game you play and it will look much better, with little to no performance hit =) Thats not something you even have to think about when you're setting up gfx options. Just set it 16x and forget it =P

I appreciate that, though I WILL forget it in a day or ... erm... what were we talking about again?

Optional Nickname! wrote on Dec 12, 2012, 09:07:

NegaDeath wrote on Dec 12, 2012, 00:43:
That's overclocking software though, the nvidia thing is different.

Obviously, you have never used Precision X. It's somewhat more than only clock speed adjustments, but you are right in that it does not change individual app settings in the app itself.

NegaDeath wrote on Dec 12, 2012, 00:43:
That's overclocking software though, the nvidia thing is different.