Fibrocyte wrote on Nov 21, 2012, 05:13:

Beamer wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 11:43:

Creston wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 11:14:

Beamer wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 00:29:
Not sure the anger/surprise. They didn't take the map away from anyone, they just took it off public matchmaking rotation.

Which makes sense - only people that preordered have this map. There's no solution possible without fractioning the community far too much (as right now you can bet about 75%+ of players have that map.)

I'd guess it'll be included in the first map pack. Then there can be separate public matchmaking for people that buy that pack without splintering the community too much.

It's somewhat a sign of it being dumb to offer a multiplayer map as a preorder, but it isn't like they're rendering its value zilch.

I guess that sort of makes sense, but why was it in the rotation for the first week (give or take a few days) then? Didn't it fracture the community the same way?

I just never makes sense to me why devs seem to think that taking stuff away from their playerbase, in any way, shape or form, makes sense. Because it doesn't.

Creston

I don't have the game, and someone already corrected me a bit, but my assumption is that the vast majority of early buyers have this so it wasn't a big deal for launch week.

Someone said it was a special playlist, though, which is what they do for map packs, too. And it's zombie-only, too, which I didn't realize.

Regardless, this is why maps are probably not a good thing to give as a preorder bonus. Skins, solo play stuff, whatever, but not maps.

It is not zombie-only.

Beamer wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 11:43:

Creston wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 11:14:

Beamer wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 00:29:
Not sure the anger/surprise. They didn't take the map away from anyone, they just took it off public matchmaking rotation.

Which makes sense - only people that preordered have this map. There's no solution possible without fractioning the community far too much (as right now you can bet about 75%+ of players have that map.)

I'd guess it'll be included in the first map pack. Then there can be separate public matchmaking for people that buy that pack without splintering the community too much.

It's somewhat a sign of it being dumb to offer a multiplayer map as a preorder, but it isn't like they're rendering its value zilch.

I guess that sort of makes sense, but why was it in the rotation for the first week (give or take a few days) then? Didn't it fracture the community the same way?

I just never makes sense to me why devs seem to think that taking stuff away from their playerbase, in any way, shape or form, makes sense. Because it doesn't.

Creston

I don't have the game, and someone already corrected me a bit, but my assumption is that the vast majority of early buyers have this so it wasn't a big deal for launch week.

Someone said it was a special playlist, though, which is what they do for map packs, too. And it's zombie-only, too, which I didn't realize.

Regardless, this is why maps are probably not a good thing to give as a preorder bonus. Skins, solo play stuff, whatever, but not maps.

Creston wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 11:14:

Beamer wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 00:29:
Not sure the anger/surprise. They didn't take the map away from anyone, they just took it off public matchmaking rotation.

Which makes sense - only people that preordered have this map. There's no solution possible without fractioning the community far too much (as right now you can bet about 75%+ of players have that map.)

I'd guess it'll be included in the first map pack. Then there can be separate public matchmaking for people that buy that pack without splintering the community too much.

It's somewhat a sign of it being dumb to offer a multiplayer map as a preorder, but it isn't like they're rendering its value zilch.

I guess that sort of makes sense, but why was it in the rotation for the first week (give or take a few days) then? Didn't it fracture the community the same way?

I just never makes sense to me why devs seem to think that taking stuff away from their playerbase, in any way, shape or form, makes sense. Because it doesn't.

Creston

Creston wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 11:14:
why was it in the rotation for the first week (give or take a few days) then?

theyarecomingforyou wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 10:42:

Fibrocyte wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 10:26:
Look, I get it. You're a hardcore PC gamer and you get weirdly jealous when a game designed for consoles gets a lot of attention. Hell, you're so hardcore that you post your gaming rig details in your signature. That's HARDCORE! Speaking of bullshit, did you actually buy two GTX680 cards and SLI them?

Heh. Yeah, it's best not to take me seriously... I say a lot of random shit.

Beamer wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 00:29:
Not sure the anger/surprise. They didn't take the map away from anyone, they just took it off public matchmaking rotation.

Which makes sense - only people that preordered have this map. There's no solution possible without fractioning the community far too much (as right now you can bet about 75%+ of players have that map.)

I'd guess it'll be included in the first map pack. Then there can be separate public matchmaking for people that buy that pack without splintering the community too much.

It's somewhat a sign of it being dumb to offer a multiplayer map as a preorder, but it isn't like they're rendering its value zilch.

Fibrocyte wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 10:26:
Look, I get it. You're a hardcore PC gamer and you get weirdly jealous when a game designed for consoles gets a lot of attention. Hell, you're so hardcore that you post your gaming rig details in your signature. That's HARDCORE! Speaking of bullshit, did you actually buy two GTX680 cards and SLI them?

theyarecomingforyou wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 10:03:

Fibrocyte wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 06:15:
I found it there, too, just a short while ago and couldn't help but smile after all the BS posted in this thread.

The only bullshit in this thread is you admitting that you actually bought this game.

Fibrocyte wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 06:15:
I found it there, too, just a short while ago and couldn't help but smile after all the BS posted in this thread.

Teddy wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 01:11:

Beamer wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 00:29:
Which makes sense - only people that preordered have this map. There's no solution possible without fractioning the community far too much (as right now you can bet about 75%+ of players have that map.)

A problem created by the idiotic decision to offer a map only to pre-order customers.

Tavil wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 09:14:
Yep, people can go back to bashing BO2 for being a terrible game like all the other CODs.

Ventura wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 05:42:
Apparently they've thrown Nuketown back into a new "fast-action playlist" in the Bonus category. It's called Chaos Moshpit, and it also has Carrier, Cargo, Express, Hijacked, Slums and Standoff in the rotation.

Predictably, most of those that have bagged Treyarch here won't post again once this news hits.

Creston wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 00:06:
So you go through all the trouble to build a MP map, and then you don't let people play it anymore?

Okay, so I guess it goes as follows:

1) Do what I described above.
2) ...
3) Profit!

I'm sure this makes sense to Bobby Cocktick. Undoubtedly they're planning on charging people 15 bucks to get the map back.

Creston