MoH SEAL Consultants Reprimanded

So many military shooters tout the credentials of their advisors there's a tendency to assume this is hype, but NBC News has word that the SEALs who participated in the development of Medal of Honor have received letters of reprimand from the U.S. Navy, and have been docked half their pay for two months (thanks David). The latest installment in EA's shooter series takes pride in the contribution of "actual U.S. Tier 1 Operators," and the truth of this is borne out by this reprimand: "We do not tolerate deviations from the policies that govern who we are and what we do as Sailors in the United States Navy," says a written statement from Deputy Commander of Naval Special Warfare, Rear Admiral Garry Bonelli. "The non-judicial punishment decisions made today send a clear message throughout our Force that we are and will be held to a high standard of accountability."
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Re: MoH SEAL Consultants Reprimanded
Nov 9, 2012, 11:14
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Nov 9, 2012, 11:14
 
Fuck EA... creating problems for everyone.
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Nov 9, 2012, 11:14
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Nov 9, 2012, 11:14
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Does anyone think for a second that EA feels any remorse for these guys that they coerced into being a part of their game and giving away vital information? Does anyone think for a second that EA will reimburse these guys for their helping them with this game? Answer = NO!!! They don’t give a rat’s ass about them.
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Nov 9, 2012, 11:19
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Nov 9, 2012, 11:19
 
I wonder what scenes in particular were related to this reprimand.. because it can't be the locations.. or can it?
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Nov 9, 2012, 12:07
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Nov 9, 2012, 12:07
 
Tell your story to a game company and you get half pay for 2 months.
Tell your story to Wikileaks and go to prison.
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Nov 9, 2012, 12:08
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Nov 9, 2012, 12:08
 
The game completely sucks too to boot....
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Nov 9, 2012, 12:26
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Nov 9, 2012, 12:26
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eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 9, 2012, 11:19:
I wonder what scenes in particular were related to this reprimand.. because it can't be the locations.. or can it?

No, more as to actual training and operations. Not to mention the government still owns them. When you've resigned you can consult - and even then you're still limited to what you can and can't say.

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Nov 9, 2012, 12:28
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Nov 9, 2012, 12:28
 
This is hypocrisy overload. "Act of Valor" Wtf? That movie not only was based on real events(supposedly), but they used real seals with real equipment including a fucking nuclear sub. lol.

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Re: MoH SEAL Consultants Reprimanded
Nov 9, 2012, 12:36
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Re: MoH SEAL Consultants Reprimanded Nov 9, 2012, 12:36
Nov 9, 2012, 12:36
 
What a complete load of crap. For 1 thing, a slap on the hand looks good for the Higher Ups. "See? We reprimanded them!!!!".

Yet you can bet they went out and bought these same games for their kids, and they are sitting around a table high fiving for the awesome propaganda that these games supply. The.... FREE... propaganda. ;p

When it comes to the Mil... do NOT believe most of what you read. There is the Mil you read about in the news, and then there is the way it REALLY is. 2 different worlds peeps.
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Nov 9, 2012, 12:39
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So the DoD allows consultation on a pro-Obama Hollywood film and not a video game?
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Nov 9, 2012, 12:45
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The SEALs should have sought the proper clearance from their chain of command and Navy public affairs before consulting, plain and simple. What they did was reveal their TTPs - many of which range from merely sensitive information all the way up to Secret and Top Secret. They deserve the Article 15s they were handed.

Being an Air Force enlisted aircrew operator myself, I wouldn't dare do what they did. I don't want anyone who shouldn't know our procedures and tactics to get a hold of them; it could help the enemy in very meaningful ways.

And the soldier who released buttloads of CLASSIFIED information to Wikileaks did it intentionally with the harm of hurting the US. It was an act of treason, and the sheer volume of information released warrants a heavy prison sentence, if not death. It is not comparable to what the SEALs did, and they received more than a slap on the wrist.
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Nov 9, 2012, 12:47
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RailWizard wrote on Nov 9, 2012, 12:28:
This is hypocrisy overload. "Act of Valor" Wtf? That movie not only was based on real events(supposedly), but they used real seals with real equipment including a fucking nuclear sub. lol.

US military had final say on everything. They got to cut.include what they wanted, and omit what they didn't want. Think propaganda.
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Re: MoH SEAL Consultants Reprimanded
Nov 9, 2012, 12:53
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Nov 9, 2012, 12:53
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Dacron wrote on Nov 9, 2012, 12:47:
RailWizard wrote on Nov 9, 2012, 12:28:
This is hypocrisy overload. "Act of Valor" Wtf? That movie not only was based on real events(supposedly), but they used real seals with real equipment including a fucking nuclear sub. lol.

US military had final say on everything. They got to cut.include what they wanted, and omit what they didn't want. Think propaganda.

Yup. And the military may have been good on this, but the SEALS never stopped to check.
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Re: MoH SEAL Consultants Reprimanded
Nov 9, 2012, 12:59
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eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 9, 2012, 11:19:
I wonder what scenes in particular were related to this reprimand.. because it can't be the locations.. or can it?

I read another article that was more in depth, and they indicated that the SEALS involved showed off proprietary equipment, its use, and tactics and that they did not ask permission from anybody to do it.

When you read books by former special forces operators, they are very vague on specifics when it comes to tactics and equipment. Why? Because they have to be. They are responsible for keeping secrets for life, not just until they retire.

Found the link: http://tinyurl.com/bxphglj

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Re: MoH SEAL Consultants Reprimanded
Nov 9, 2012, 13:01
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Well yeah, PR stunt was my first reaction.
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Nov 9, 2012, 13:37
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Well at least nobody in their right mind would play this game in the first place, so I guess the secret's safe.
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Nov 9, 2012, 13:40
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Nov 9, 2012, 13:40
 
The Half Elf wrote on Nov 9, 2012, 12:07:
Tell your story to a game company and you get half pay for 2 months.
Tell your storyProvide classified documents to Wikileaks and go to prison.

Fixed.
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Nov 9, 2012, 13:41
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Agent.X7 wrote on Nov 9, 2012, 12:59:
eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 9, 2012, 11:19:
I wonder what scenes in particular were related to this reprimand.. because it can't be the locations.. or can it?

I read another article that was more in depth, and they indicated that the SEALS involved showed off proprietary equipment, its use, and tactics and that they did not ask permission from anybody to do it.

When you read books by former special forces operators, they are very vague on specifics when it comes to tactics and equipment. Why? Because they have to be. They are responsible for keeping secrets for life, not just until they retire.

Found the link: http://tinyurl.com/bxphglj

Sounds to me like these Seals got off kinda light. They should be counting their lucky stars.

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Re: MoH SEAL Consultants Reprimanded
Nov 9, 2012, 13:42
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Nov 9, 2012, 13:42
 
They got reprimanded for being involved in such a shitty game.
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Nov 9, 2012, 13:53
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eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 9, 2012, 11:19:
I wonder what scenes in particular were related to this reprimand.. because it can't be the locations.. or can it?

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Nov 9, 2012, 14:18
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DangerDog wrote on Nov 9, 2012, 13:53:
eRe4s3r wrote on Nov 9, 2012, 11:19:
I wonder what scenes in particular were related to this reprimand.. because it can't be the locations.. or can it?

Regenerating health and the ability to respawn.

door breaching techniques as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72Ew-awbsNw

Lol.
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