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50. Re: Morning Legal Briefs Oct 30, 2012, 13:13 RollinThundr
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2012, 12:43:
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2012, 12:05:
Wowbagger_TIP wrote on Oct 30, 2012, 11:14:
Keep dragging that apology tour line out, even though it's been debunked all over the place. America has done some lousy things, some of which have come back to bite us in the ass, and some have just caused problems for others. Anyone that believes Romney's line about America not dictating to other countries is just plain ignorant. We've both dictated to and freed other countries. It's not an either-or situation.

No we've certainly done that more than once. However you seem to forget how quickly Obama has run to the UN for help anytime he faces opposition, which seems to be alot of the time.

The UN thinking they're an authority on anything aside from passing weak sanctions that they don't follow through on most of the time is pretty humorous.

The UN is often quite useless, but is also one of the only ways to get other countries to take on some of the burden of intervening all over the world. Unless we want to be stuck footing the bill in blood and treasure for every action that needs to be taken, then we have to work with the UN.

You might want to bear in mind that we really don't do anything in the world militarily that isn't in our own interests. Other countries are much the same, and our interests will often not line up with the other security council members. So we end up either going it alone and taking the cost on ourselves, or we try to convince others to go with us. Of course clusterfucks like Iraq make getting others to follow us difficult too.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2012, 12:05:
For a president who uses the phrase "Let me be clear" on a regular basis, he hasn't been very clear on much of anything, in fact his administration has been one of the least transparent in the history of the US.
He's continued most of the same policies on transparency that the previous administration had. How come Republicans weren't screaming about them then? I don't like it, but I find it rather ridiculous for the right to complain now.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2012, 12:05:
If there's anything he actually is clear about it's consistantly giving forth the message that he wants more government oversite over everything, and folks like you still planning to give him another 4 years to drive our debt further into the abyss simply because there's a D in front of his name drives me crazy.
This argument makes no sense. We had 10 years of Republican rule that lead up to the financial crisis which drove the economy into the ground. Anyone who's paid any attention knows that you don't get out of a recession by cutting deficits. The focus of the right on that is just laughable. GWB runs up deficits and only a few financial hawks on the right even make a peep about it. He puts 2 wars, a prescription drug benefit and a huge tax cut on the national credit card, and nobody in the GOP balks. Then, all the deregulation and lack of oversight of the mortgage and banking industries catches up with us and NOW you want to bitch about deficits??? It's fucking crazy land over on the right!

While the right isn't alone in responsibility for the crisis, they sure lead the way. To spend a decade decimating the oversight of these industries and then bitch about how Obama hasn't fixed everything in four years is just so outrageous that I can't take anything they say seriously. So even though I really don't like a lot of the things that Obama has done, I just can't stomach the crap Romney is peddling.

I definitely can't vote for someone who won't even acknowledge the mistakes of the past, as they are destined to repeat them.

RollinThundr wrote on Oct 30, 2012, 12:05:
I have little love for Mittens, but at the end of the day, I want someone as president who at least has successfully run a business, not some community orginizer, from what is likely the most corrupt state in the union.
Running a company bears almost no real relation to running a country. All these comparisons between the national budget and your checkbook or your corporate bottom line are not valid, as has been explained plenty of times. Given the shit we've seen companies do, and get away with, I'm really not sure it's even a net benefit on his resume.

Clinton set the ball rolling on the housing collapse, Bush got the blame since it happened on his watch. Bush alone didn't cause the financial meltdown but any liberal will tell you it was him and him alone. The democrat party had control of both the the House and Senate, starting January 4th, 2007 they didn't seem to have much issue with Bush's policies at the time either but soley trying to blame the recession on Junior is flat out rediculous.

Like I said, I'm no cheerleader for Mittens, but Obama gives me a strong impression that he flat out won't get anything done in a positive manner, he refuses to work with republicans then blames them for not working with him, while he signs another executive order to get his way.

Rather than talk about ways to cut spending, he peddles nationalized heathcare and shit like his "Julia" pitch, government handholding from cradle to grave.

He apparently didn't get the memo that our spending is going to bankrupt us. Which is a memo the republicans neither seem to have gotten. And really, robbing Peter to pay Paul via wealth redistribution isn't an answer unless you seriously cut spending.

The whole idea if the rich just pay a little bit more it'll balance out is bullshit. The rich could be taxed 100% of their income and it still wouldn't cover even a half of the spending the pigs in DC keep pushing.

If Romney has a plan to create substainable jobs, give him the chance to do so, and if he's serious about cutting spending that's far more talking about cuts than I've heard out of the Obmessiah's mouth.

At the end of the day it's voting for the lesser of the two evils and granted it's only my opinion but Romney seems to be the lesser of the two this go around.

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