Out of the Blue

I saw a reference today to Indiana Jones today that made me think of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, a recollection not as painful for me as it should be, as I have not seen the much-reviled latest installment in the series. This is because, as I've mentioned in the past, MrsBlue and I end up seeing a vast majority of movies after they come to cable/satellite, especially when the reviews are as mixed (to put it kindly) as they were for Indy 4. Which brings me to my point: Is Spielberg so embarrassed by this film he's keeping it off cable? It was released well over four years ago, and its absence from the small screen is starting to seem like the it's getting The Star Wars Holiday Special treatment. By all accounts this is deserved, but I remain masochistically curious to see it.

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Oct 13, 2012, 15:38
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Oct 13, 2012, 15:38
 
Crystal Skull has been on cable (TBS, Spike, maybe AMC) for awhile now, at least the past year if not longer.
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Oct 13, 2012, 15:41
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Oct 13, 2012, 15:41
 
Yeah. Same here. Like Blue, I haven't seen it either yet everytime I see that it is on, I skip past. Is it ANY good?
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Oct 13, 2012, 15:44
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Oct 13, 2012, 16:00
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eDave wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 15:41:
Yeah. Same here. Like Blue, I haven't seen it either yet everytime I see that it is on, I skip past. Is it ANY good?

Absolutely not...

Spoilers, but I'll s { them anyway...


1. Annoying, unnecessary sidekick.
2. They bring Marion back, only to basically have her stand around and smile.
3. A rubber snake thats so wildly rubber it's not even funny.
4. A fight atop moving vehicles thats obviously greenscreened.
5. An ending that was just...dumb, I guess is the best description. Aliens? Really?


I could go on, but that's off the top of my head, only seeing it once, years ago.


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Oct 13, 2012, 16:03
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Oct 13, 2012, 16:03
 
I think that IJ4 is like Prometheus. It's a decent flick on it's own, terrible in comparison to its predecessors, and full of lots of groan inducing stupidity.

I actually saw it in the theater by myself since none of my friends would go with me.
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This comment was edited on Oct 13, 2012, 16:10.
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Re: Out of the Blue
Oct 13, 2012, 16:29
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Oct 13, 2012, 16:29
nin
 
I think that IJ4 is like Prometheus. It's a decent flick on it's own, terrible in comparison to its predecessors, and full of lots of groan inducing stupidity.


I totally agree with that for both movies...except for the "decent flick"s part.

Honestly, at this point, I'm almost hoping Ridley gets cold feet on the Blade Runner sequel. But he still seems interested...

Oh and the fridge! How the fuck could I forget the fridge?!


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Oct 13, 2012, 16:59
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nin wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 16:29:
...groan inducing stupidity.


I totally agree with that for both movies...except for the "decent flick"s part.

Jesus... A biologist tries to pet a deadly beast and a geologist with the coolest mapping technology gets lost - those minor bits were stupid.

What else? Don't give me shit about helmets, or an 'invitation' (Shaw's interpretation, which as she says herself was "so wrong".)

I'm totally sick of the Prometheus bashing, as whenever anyone actually says what it is they didn't like about it, it effectively amounts to, "It's not the Alien movie I wanted."

It's not an Alien movie!!! As Scott said, it's set in the same universe. That's it.

IJ4 was disgusting because three people responsible for Indy in the first place (Lucas, Spielberg and Ford) managed to royally fuck it up. It was like they'd never seen the other movies, never mind wrote/directed/starred in them.
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Oct 13, 2012, 17:14
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Blade Runner should be contained in its own world. While the debate rages on whether Decker is a Replicant (in spite of Ridley saying he was), it really does end when the movie finished. Tie it up with the monologue and death of Rutger Hauer's character sealed its legacy as the best (in my opinion) sci-fi movie ever.

The only way I can see Ridley pushing a BR sequel is to find a way to merge the BR and Alien universe together through Prometheus as shown in the easter egg along with an interview done with him expressing his interest in doing this.

I swear to god, if it ends up with Weyland buying out the Tyrell Corporation to make automatons like Ash and Bishop and is the precursor to Hyperdyne Systems, well, I don't know...
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Oct 13, 2012, 17:17
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"It's not the Alien movie I wanted."

No it's pretty awful regardless. And if we aren't supposed to compare it to Alien then they SHOULDN'T HAVE SOLD IT AS ALIEN. The entire Prometheus marketing campaign amounted to every soul involved playing cutesy-coy about its relation to Alien.
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More of a legal thing than anything else, but the big (e)book publishers have gotten their asses handed to them with regards to illegal price fixing, and if you bought any kindle books in the last two years, you're going to get some money back.

See here

They also say that there will be limits on the prices that publishers can set for ebooks. So hopefully we can finally shed that wonderful Steve Jobs legacy (fucking asshole) and get back to ebooks actually costing LESS than a real book.

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Re: Out of the Blue
Oct 13, 2012, 17:39
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pnag wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 16:59:
nin wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 16:29:
...groan inducing stupidity.


I totally agree with that for both movies...except for the "decent flick"s part.

Jesus... A biologist tries to pet a deadly beast and a geologist with the coolest mapping technology gets lost - those minor bits were stupid.

What else? Don't give me shit about helmets, or an 'invitation' (Shaw's interpretation, which as she says herself was "so wrong".)

I'm totally sick of the Prometheus bashing, as whenever anyone actually says what it is they didn't like about it, it effectively amounts to, "It's not the Alien movie I wanted."

It's not an Alien movie!!! As Scott said, it's set in the same universe. That's it.

IJ4 was disgusting because three people responsible for Indy in the first place (Lucas, Spielberg and Ford) managed to royally fuck it up. It was like they'd never seen the other movies, never mind wrote/directed/starred in them.

Let's see...

Crew signs on, flies across the galaxy, wakes up and STILL doesn't know what their mission is.

Crew that enters what is clearly a building (built by SOMEONE), with virtually no weaponry.

The helmet removal WAS stupid.

A pilot and his crew who, at the drop of a hat, decide to sacrifice themselves and their giant spaceship.

A woman that can only run in a straight line to outrun a ship about to fell on her (and seriously, what are the odds of a circular ship managing to roll on it's outer edge like a wheel w/o falling over???).

Another woman who has her stomach cut open and can magically run around the rest of the movie with almost no problems.



Look, I love Ridley Scott. But this story was a fucking MESS...

More here:
http://youtu.be/RBaKqOMGPWc


More of a legal thing than anything else, but the big (e)book publishers have gotten their asses handed to them with regards to illegal price fixing, and if you bought any kindle books in the last two years, you're going to get some money back.

Yeah, got that email from amazon this morning. I look forward to my .30 cent refund or the like...




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Oct 13, 2012, 17:56
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nin wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 17:39:
Crew signs on, flies across the galaxy, wakes up and STILL doesn't know what their mission is.

Need to know? Top secret? Weyland was a Howard Hughes type. How is this a problem? Happens in movies/books all the time?

nin wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 17:39:
Crew that enters what is clearly a building (built by SOMEONE), with virtually no weaponry.

Just like in Alien? Cause those space truckers were armed to the mofoin' teeth! Oh, wait. THEY WEREN'T. Again, how is this a problem?

nin wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 17:39:
The helmet removal WAS stupid.

Why? It made no difference - the contagion wasn't airborne, the atmosphere was breathable. How is this a problem? Cause you say it's stupid?

nin wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 17:39:
A pilot and his crew who, at the drop of a hat, decide to sacrifice themselves and their giant spaceship.

Did you missed that conversation between Janek and Shaw about how there would be no home to go back to if the Engineer ship left? Or the earlier conversation when Janek says "Nothing will be allowed to go back"? I grant you, the motivation is quite weak, but no more weak than Ripley going back for a fucking cat...

nin wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 17:39:
A woman that can only run in a straight line to outrun a ship about to fell on her (and seriously, what are the odds of a circular ship managing to roll on it's outer edge like a wheel w/o falling over???).

Yup - sick of this one too. Did you see how wide that ship was? It was HUGE. Why didn't people just run out of the way of the towers falling on 9/11? Don't know what the odds of the circular ship rolling are, but I'm willing to bet you don't know either...

nin wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 17:39:
Another woman who has her stomach cut open and can magically run around the rest of the movie with almost no problems.

My wife had a C-section in May. Could pick up the baby instantly, walk within minutes. Didn't ask her to run as I'm not a total shit And that's with today's medicine. Not with sci-fi 2083.

Anything else? You did, you know, actually watch the movie, right? Cause I think that's the problem - most of the audience didn't. MTV generation who can't pay attention.

nin wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 17:39:
Look, I love Ridley Scott. But this story was a fucking MESS...

I love the guy too, and they said the same of Blade Runner in '82. The story was not a mess, most people just failed to pay attention. Most of the answers were right there.

If you didn't like it, fair enough, but most of the stuff you mentioned is, no offense, BS.
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PHJF wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 17:17:
No it's pretty awful regardless.

Sorry to sound like an English lit. teacher, but why?


PHJF wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 17:17:
And if we aren't supposed to compare it to Alien then they SHOULDN'T HAVE SOLD IT AS ALIEN. The entire Prometheus marketing campaign amounted to every soul involved playing cutesy-coy about its relation to Alien.

Can't fault that criticism, but it wasn't Scott who did that, it was Fox. Scott said it was set in the same universe and that was about it. Made pains to say the Alien aspect was done - but I do see your point.

Honestly, give it some time, watch it again without preconceptions (hard to do, I know) and I think you might actually enjoy it.
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Oct 13, 2012, 18:37
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Oct 13, 2012, 18:37
 
Crystal Skull plot holes and aliens is your complaint? Lol have you ever watched Indiana Jones movies, ever? Alien anymore ridiculous then the ark of the covenent spewing death rays? or the submarine plot hole in Raiders? ...Which I think is one of the best movies ever made.

They are action packed, over the top, rip roaring rides of fantasy. Seriously Blue if you liked the first ones kick back and enjoy the Crystal Skull ride, it follows the same script. Its not as good as Raiders or Crusade, but better then Doom.

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Oct 13, 2012, 18:39
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Yeah, Crystal Skull is on the TV here all the time. And you're not missing anything, Blue. That South Park episode about the rape of Indy tells you all you need to know about that film. Gods above will Shia the beef just go away!?
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Oct 13, 2012, 19:21
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Need to know? Top secret? Weyland was a Howard Hughes type. How is this a problem? Happens in movies/books all the time?

And still unbelieveable.


Why didn't people just run out of the way of the towers falling on 9/11?

Wow, seriously?


Anything else? You did, you know, actually watch the movie, right? Cause I think that's the problem - most of the audience didn't. MTV generation who can't pay attention.

Thank you for the dismissive stereotype. I'll resist the urge to do the same.


Honestly, give it some time, watch it again without preconceptions (hard to do, I know) and I think you might actually enjoy it.

You could slam your hand in a car door for another two hours, too. But common sense would tell you that if it was painful the first time, it probably won't get any better.

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By all accounts this is deserved, but I remain masochistically curious to see it.

Better to watch the brilliant review by the genius who did the Star Wars prequel reviews - WAY more entertaining.

And I hate to say it, but pnag is mostly right about the complaints about Prometheus. It was a fairly disappointing movie, but the "plot holes" people keep bringing up are either totally made up or no more egregious than those people close a blind eye to in better movies. I think because Prometheus wasn't as good a movie as we were all hoping makes people go the extra mile to hate on it.
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Oct 13, 2012, 20:33
 
I thought "3" was WAYYY worse than 4, unwatchable!...I've watched 4 at least twice...and thought - "WTF are they thinking" , but watched anyway

Prometheus rules, too much analysis

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Oct 13, 2012, 21:13
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Haha! After watching the "Honest Trailer" of Prometheus I watched the one for The Dark Knight -- it was great.

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Yosemite Sam wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 18:37:
Its not as good as Raiders or Crusade, but better then Doom.

Better than Doom? Doom is much better than Crusade though...

Killer Kane wrote on Oct 13, 2012, 20:33:
I thought "3" was WAYYY worse than 4, unwatchable!

Eh they're close, no way is Crusade way worse.
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