Out of the Blue

[Oct 13, 2012, 3:23 pm ET] - Share - Viewing Comments

I saw a reference today to Indiana Jones today that made me think of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, a recollection not as painful for me as it should be, as I have not seen the much-reviled latest installment in the series. This is because, as I've mentioned in the past, MrsBlue and I end up seeing a vast majority of movies after they come to cable/satellite, especially when the reviews are as mixed (to put it kindly) as they were for Indy 4. Which brings me to my point: Is Spielberg so embarrassed by this film he's keeping it off cable? It was released well over four years ago, and its absence from the small screen is starting to seem like the it's getting The Star Wars Holiday Special treatment. By all accounts this is deserved, but I remain masochistically curious to see it.

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Re: Out of the Blue

Oct 15, 2012, 05:20

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Bhruic wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 11:08: No, what makes it stupid is that it is stupid. Says you, but go on... Bhruic wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 11:08: It's completely indefensible by anyone with even a basic level of reasoning. You know what killed more Native Americans than all the bullets the colonials brought with them? Infection. Infection from the same planet they were on, with the same atmosphere, the same lifeforms, the same biosphere. And yet because they'd never been exposed and hadn't developed any resistance, they died in droves. And has been pointed out, no technology. Alters the 'social context' of it. You've also just implied that the Native Americans didn't have basic reasoning... Bit racist, that... Incidentally, the 1918 flu pandemic killed more people than the World War I. And? So what? What does it have to do with Prometheus? Apart from the notion of infection? As I mentioned before, it was a single scientist (who was asked not to but did it anyway), and as I pointed out, scientists have taken seemingly (and we now know, actually) crazy risks before (Roentgen, Curie, Jenner to name but three.) Bhruic wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 11:08: Now you've got a bunch of people on an alien planet with potential alien lifeforms, bacteria, etc, and someone who claims to be a scientist thinks it's perfectly fine to take off his helmet simply because the atmosphere mixture is acceptable? "Oh, people tried to talk him out of it!" Sure, and when he idiotically did it anyway, wtf did the rest of the people do? Apparently, since he didn't keel over immediately, that means it's "safe", so all the other fucking idiots took their helmets off too. Ancient Romans - used lead pipes for drinking water, 20th century Arctic explorers pulling a piano across the ice for entertainment; need I go on? These are real life examples. Did they turn out to be dumb? Yes. You can argue that the scientists in Prometheus should have known better, but with all that amazing technology - I know plenty of people who would have taken the same risk. Honestly, not sure I would have, but there are people who would. And lest we forget, again, the contagion was not airborne. Bhruic wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 11:08: So apparently you either got your degrees from a cracker-jacks box, or are in complete denial over how stupid those actions were. Or I can observe that just because I would not do something, doesn't mean other people wouldn't. I'm not a Nazi or in favour of the death penalty, but it doesn't automatically imply that they were (or indeed, I am) stupid. That would be tremendously closed minded and arrogant, no? Bhruic wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 11:08: And that's only the frosting on the stupid cake that the movie was. It doesn't even go into stuff like "I spent my whole life studying these things, but since we didn't get immediate answers in the first 6hrs since we've got here, we are total failures". One scientist, from the whole team, felt like this. Why? As is stated, he wanted them to be alive - to talk to them. He even says, "Is this just another tomb?!?" I'd be pretty pissed myself if I'd dreamt of meeting them my whole life, and not just a bunch of corpses. Bhruic wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 11:08: Or "We have the technology to monitor the suits of the scientists in the structure, which apparently works fine despite the storm on the surface, but when they go missing, we can't simply look at their cameras to find out where they are and what's happened to them". I didn't like that either, personally. Said so in my first post. Bhruic wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 11:08: And I could keep going, but listing all of the rampant stupidity of the movie would take up the rest of the day, and I just don't have that kind of time to waste. Or maybe you're being unfair to the movie? Hating on it just a bit too much? Like I said elsewhere, give it some time, and try it again? You might just like it. When I first saw Blade Runner over 20 years ago, I hated it. Now it's in my top five, and don't know what I was thinking. (Incidentally, Prometheus isn't, but you get the idea...) nin wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 10:59: Well, when you're totally dismissive of people that don't agree with you, it kind of becomes a one sided conversation... Just because you "shoot them down" (in your mind anyway) doesn't mean your view point is any more agreeable/correct. Nin, I wouldn't be dismissive if people (not necessarily you!) didn't just say, "That was dumb! Prometheus sucked!" If you disagree, at least tell us why? This comment was edited on Oct 15, 2012, 05:32.

		Date	Subject	Author
	1.	Oct 13, 15:38	Re: Out of the Blue	Deathbishop
	2.	Oct 13, 15:41	Re: Out of the Blue	eDave
	4.	Oct 13, 16:00	Re: Out of the Blue	nin
	3.	Oct 13, 15:44	Re: Out of the Blue	Wallshadows
	5.	Oct 13, 16:03	Re: Out of the Blue	Sepharo
	6.	Oct 13, 16:29	Re: Out of the Blue	nin
	7.	Oct 13, 16:59	Re: Out of the Blue	pnag
	9.	Oct 13, 17:17	Re: Out of the Blue	PHJF
	13.	Oct 13, 17:59	Re: Out of the Blue	pnag
	14.	Oct 13, 18:37	Re: Out of the Blue	Yosemite Sam
	17.	Oct 13, 20:08	Re: Out of the Blue	Prez
	20.	Oct 13, 21:46	Re: Out of the Blue	Sepharo
	11.	Oct 13, 17:39	Re: Out of the Blue	nin
	12.	Oct 13, 17:56	Re: Out of the Blue	pnag
	16.	Oct 13, 19:21	Re: Out of the Blue	nin
	21.	Oct 13, 22:38	Re: Out of the Blue	1badmf
	25.	Oct 14, 06:23	Re: Out of the Blue	pnag
	26.	Oct 14, 07:17	Re: Out of the Blue	DG
	27.	Oct 14, 07:33	Re: Out of the Blue	Dmitri_M
	28.	Oct 14, 08:34	Re: Out of the Blue	pnag
	29.	Oct 14, 09:00	Re: Out of the Blue	Dmitri_M
	30.	Oct 14, 09:42	Re: Out of the Blue	PHJF
	46.	Oct 14, 15:10	Re: Out of the Blue	Ant
	31.	Oct 14, 10:59	Re: Out of the Blue	nin
	34.	Oct 14, 11:25	Re: Out of the Blue	Prez
	32.	Oct 14, 11:08	Re: Out of the Blue	Bhruic
	33.	Oct 14, 11:23	Re: Out of the Blue	PHJF
	35.	Oct 14, 11:35	Re: Out of the Blue	Bhruic
	36.	Oct 14, 12:03	Re: Out of the Blue	PHJF
	38.	Oct 14, 12:15	Re: Out of the Blue	Prez
>>	47.	Oct 15, 05:20	Re: Out of the Blue	pnag
	8.	Oct 13, 17:14	Re: Out of the Blue	Wallshadows
	10.	Oct 13, 17:26	Re: Out of the Blue	Creston
	15.	Oct 13, 18:39	Re: Out of the Blue	Cutter
	18.	Oct 13, 20:33	IJ4	Killer Kane
	19.	Oct 13, 21:13	Re: Out of the Blue	Mr. Tact
	22.	Oct 14, 00:09	Re: Out of the Blue	Jeraxle
	23.	Oct 14, 00:38	Re: Out of the Blue	nin
	24.	Oct 14, 01:31	Re: Out of the Blue	Sepharo
	37.	Oct 14, 12:09	Re: Out of the Blue	Jivaro
	39.	Oct 14, 12:15	Re: Out of the Blue	Prez
	40.	Oct 14, 12:23	Re: Out of the Blue	PHJF
	41.	Oct 14, 12:34	Re: Out of the Blue	Prez
	42.	Oct 14, 12:48	Re: Out of the Blue	Bhruic
	43.	Oct 14, 12:53	Re: Out of the Blue	Echo Red Park
	44.	Oct 14, 13:02	Re: Out of the Blue	Retired
	45.	Oct 14, 15:08	Indy Movies	Ant
	49.	Nov 11, 21:30	Re: Indy Movies	Ant
	48.	Oct 15, 14:24	Re: Out of the Blue	Verno