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Ant wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 15:08:NBC is showing it again on CATurday night, the 24th! This will be the third time!
Blue, NBC showed it on local broadcast twice AFAIK. I watched it twice: in local AMC theater in film format (ugh) and in HD from NBC. Both sucked. See http://aqfl.net/node/6179 for the poll, comments, and my links.![]()
Bhruic wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 11:08:
No, what makes it stupid is that it is stupid.
Bhruic wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 11:08:
It's completely indefensible by anyone with even a basic level of reasoning. You know what killed more Native Americans than all the bullets the colonials brought with them? Infection. Infection from the same planet they were on, with the same atmosphere, the same lifeforms, the same biosphere. And yet because they'd never been exposed and hadn't developed any resistance, they died in droves.
Bhruic wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 11:08:
Now you've got a bunch of people on an alien planet with potential alien lifeforms, bacteria, etc, and someone who claims to be a scientist thinks it's perfectly fine to take off his helmet simply because the atmosphere mixture is acceptable? "Oh, people tried to talk him out of it!" Sure, and when he idiotically did it anyway, wtf did the rest of the people do? Apparently, since he didn't keel over immediately, that means it's "safe", so all the other fucking idiots took their helmets off too.
Bhruic wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 11:08:
So apparently you either got your degrees from a cracker-jacks box, or are in complete denial over how stupid those actions were.
Bhruic wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 11:08:
And that's only the frosting on the stupid cake that the movie was. It doesn't even go into stuff like "I spent my whole life studying these things, but since we didn't get immediate answers in the first 6hrs since we've got here, we are total failures".
Bhruic wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 11:08:
Or "We have the technology to monitor the suits of the scientists in the structure, which apparently works fine despite the storm on the surface, but when they go missing, we can't simply look at their cameras to find out where they are and what's happened to them".
Bhruic wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 11:08:
And I could keep going, but listing all of the rampant stupidity of the movie would take up the rest of the day, and I just don't have that kind of time to waste.
nin wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 10:59:
Well, when you're totally dismissive of people that don't agree with you, it kind of becomes a one sided conversation...![]()
Just because you "shoot them down" (in your mind anyway) doesn't mean your view point is any more agreeable/correct.
PHJF wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 09:42:Yeah, Last Crusade was good. I would ranked that #2 in my Indy movie list. Raider of the Lost Ark is #1 for sure.
Why the fuck would anyone rag on Last Crusade? Sean Connery is amazing. Even for mentioning Crusade and Crystal in the same post I should hunt down and murder you.
Prez wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 12:34:
Anyone who has ever enjoyed a sci-fi film has swallowed truckloads of insanely impossible stuff on the way, but now all of a sudden we need constant impeccable believability?
PHJF wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 12:23:The real reason is that Alien overall was a far better movie and thus worth closing a blind eye to its own logical fallacies.
Right, so all these discussions of Prometheus' lore and whatnot are moot. Setting all that aside, it was a totally forgettable movie. I didn't scream for my money back when it was over, but I didn't (and still don't) have any desire to watch it again.
The real reason is that Alien overall was a far better movie and thus worth closing a blind eye to its own logical fallacies.
PHJF wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 12:03:Hell, you don't have to look past 'Alien' to find a similar behavior - Dallas knowingly broke quarantine not even knowing if they could save Cane and risked killing everyone in the process (which actually fucking happened!!)
Once again a ship full of space miners != a ship full of supposedly genius-level scientists.
Hell, you don't have to look past 'Alien' to find a similar behavior - Dallas knowingly broke quarantine not even knowing if they could save Cane and risked killing everyone in the process (which actually fucking happened!!)
PHJF wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 11:23:
To be fair, American Indians didn't have interstellar starships, did they? If they have an automated medical bay which can perform Caesarean sections with fricken lasers they are probably equipped to handle alien microbes, viruses, and bacteria. I just don't think any of them were expecting to stumble into a cache of biological weapons.
Now you've got a bunch of people on an alien planet with potential alien lifeforms, bacteria, etc, and someone who claims to be a scientist thinks it's perfectly fine to take off his helmet simply because the atmosphere mixture is acceptable?
pnag wrote on Oct 14, 2012, 06:23:
Sooo... Let me get this straight... You're comparing a government run early space program, with three military trained pilots, that the world was watching... To one oddball scientist taking his helmet off? (As it is just Holloway at first, and they all do try to talk him out of it.) Tell me, was Jenner irresponsible when he didn't obey AMA guidelines for the first smallpox innoculation? Or was he a scientist working by himself? And Marie Curie! What an idiot! Her research killed her - would never happen in real life...
Oh wait, it did...
High school level science background? My degree, Masters and current undertaking of a PhD say otherwise. You thinking it's stupid does not make it so.
nin - you didn't like it, I can appreciate that. But don't trot out reasons and when they're shot down come out with answers like "Wow, seriously?" or "And still unbelieveable."
They're non-arguments, you're better than that.