Prez wrote on Oct 11, 2012, 17:28:
Nope, not the same...Now tell me where I can find another OS that will play all of the modern, older, and classic games aside from Windows.

It is the same because the Microsoft store is not going to be the only place to purchase or obtain games for Windows 8. It is just one walled garden for Windows. Steam is another walled garden for Windows.

Having your own set of rules for your service is not censorship.

Of course it's censorship! Valve is refusing to offer those games even on its Greenlight service which is supposed to allow users to decide if a game should be available on Steam. Just because it's not the government imposing it doesn't mean it's not censorship. Plus when everyone in the market imposes the same restrictions/censorship it has virtually the same effect as government censorship. That's why major developers and publishers don't release adults-only games because basically all of the retailers and digital distributors ban them.

Speeding towards forcing that everything that can possibly be used on your PC with your restrictive certification process and marketplace makes it clear that's where Microsoft is headed.

While your assertion isn't true based upon what Microsoft has actually stated, even if it were, for PC games it would just be trading one dominant walled garden (Steam) for Microsoft's since those two have basically the same standards/restrictions based upon public statements. Steam is basically now a monopoly for PC games because even if a PC game isn't sold through Steam, it most likely requires Steam which means that the game had to be approved by Valve for sale. In addition judging from online comments across many Internet forums there are many PC users who will only buy games which use Steam. That means that Steam is the de facto arbiter of what games get released/made on the PC because if a game isn't allowed on Steam, it won't be successful, and if it isn't successful, similar games won't get made in the future.

Valve restrictirons largely around quality.

No, as my adult game example proved it had nothing to do with the quality of the game. And, quality is highly subjective. Plus the whole idea of Greenlight was supposed to be to let the community not Valve decide what games are good enough for Steam. Instead Valve is being hypocritical by denying some legitimate games upfront based upon its own arbitrary standards of indency, quality, etc.

This comment was edited on Oct 15, 2012, 07:24.