Jivaro wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 19:38:
Bigots rationalizing bigotry, that is all it is. They'll admit that people say stupid shit, they'll admit the laws aren't fair, but their entire argument is that the oppressed should suffer in silence. We should all just pretend like there isn't a problem.
Why is it that the bigots never suffer in silence. I mean, by their logic, the best thing to do with "GaymerCon" is to pretend it's not there. Don't go to it, don't talk about it, and most certainly don't acknowledge it.
Yet...that isn't exactly what I see here.
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 18:46:Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 16:49:RailWizard wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 16:46:Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:49:
And the point I'm making is that, at nearly any of these conventions, you're likely to have people going "that's gay" or "you're gay" or "that kill was gay," or somehow using homosexuality as a negative. It's pretty much a given in any form of gaming, whether related to the gaming or not.
So people that are tired of hearing that the way they are born is a synonym for someone getting a cheap kill are getting together to avoid.
Sooo, do you think they would mind if we start a explicitly "straight" gamer group? You know, where we sit around and do all the things you mentioned(act like normal straight people that is..) and NOT GIVE A FUCK? Fair is fair, right? I mean, a long time ago people worked to get rid of segregation, but apparently they were all a bunch of fucking idiots because now the very types that actually were oppressed are now drawing the lines around themselves. Yes, I'm talking about more than just gays now...
Can't say or do anything anymore without some suitcase full of issues getting offended about it these days, BUT THAT'S PERFECTLY NORMAL. Nothing to see here folks...that is unless we are insulting one of the currently 'PC' things to insult that is. Then it's open season. Just don't be Christian, Straight, or White, and you can say whatever you want and if anyone makes the terrible error of insulting you, well bad things will ensue.
Enjoy your little party, just don't expect it to advance anything except your own (deluded)rationalizations. Now go ahead and make some stupidly witty remarks to make yourselves feel superior.
Let's also start a White History Month.
Also, it's funny that you're whining about people getting offended over the tiniest thing in a thread in which you're offended by some people having a Gay friendly gaming convention in which everyone is invited.
Who's getting offended, apparently pointing out that starting a "gaymercon" is kinda silly is somehow being offended.
We should start a white history month, it would be fantastic to see folks like Al Sharpton have a massive heart attack over it. Or at least turn it into some form of twisted discrimination.
Here's the thing beamer, no one but the people going to this con really cares one way or the other. And really Rail is pretty spot on, the PC crowd DOES get offended over every little thing real or imagined. It does however imo give that whole "look at me pay attention to me!" Gist that that community does more often than not.
Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 16:49:RailWizard wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 16:46:Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:49:
And the point I'm making is that, at nearly any of these conventions, you're likely to have people going "that's gay" or "you're gay" or "that kill was gay," or somehow using homosexuality as a negative. It's pretty much a given in any form of gaming, whether related to the gaming or not.
So people that are tired of hearing that the way they are born is a synonym for someone getting a cheap kill are getting together to avoid.
Sooo, do you think they would mind if we start a explicitly "straight" gamer group? You know, where we sit around and do all the things you mentioned(act like normal straight people that is..) and NOT GIVE A FUCK? Fair is fair, right? I mean, a long time ago people worked to get rid of segregation, but apparently they were all a bunch of fucking idiots because now the very types that actually were oppressed are now drawing the lines around themselves. Yes, I'm talking about more than just gays now...
Can't say or do anything anymore without some suitcase full of issues getting offended about it these days, BUT THAT'S PERFECTLY NORMAL. Nothing to see here folks...that is unless we are insulting one of the currently 'PC' things to insult that is. Then it's open season. Just don't be Christian, Straight, or White, and you can say whatever you want and if anyone makes the terrible error of insulting you, well bad things will ensue.
Enjoy your little party, just don't expect it to advance anything except your own (deluded)rationalizations. Now go ahead and make some stupidly witty remarks to make yourselves feel superior.
Let's also start a White History Month.
Also, it's funny that you're whining about people getting offended over the tiniest thing in a thread in which you're offended by some people having a Gay friendly gaming convention in which everyone is invited.
RailWizard wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 16:46:
Sooo, do you think they would mind if we start a explicitly "straight" gamer group?
RailWizard wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 16:46:
Sooo, do you think they would mind if we start a explicitly "straight" gamer group? You know, where we sit around and do all the things you mentioned(act like normal straight people that is..) and NOT GIVE A FUCK? Fair is fair, right? I mean, a long time ago people worked to get rid of segregation, but apparently they were all a bunch of fucking idiots because now the very types that actually were oppressed are now drawing the lines around themselves. Yes, I'm talking about more than just gays now...
Can't say or do anything anymore without some suitcase full of issues getting offended about it these days, BUT THAT'S PERFECTLY NORMAL. Nothing to see here folks...that is unless we are insulting one of the currently 'PC' things to insult that is. Then it's open season. Just don't be Christian, Straight, or White, and you can say whatever you want and if anyone makes the terrible error of insulting you, well bad things will ensue.
Enjoy your little party, just don't expect it to advance anything except your own (deluded)rationalizations. Now go ahead and make some stupidly witty remarks to make yourselves feel superior.
RailWizard wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 16:46:Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:49:
And the point I'm making is that, at nearly any of these conventions, you're likely to have people going "that's gay" or "you're gay" or "that kill was gay," or somehow using homosexuality as a negative. It's pretty much a given in any form of gaming, whether related to the gaming or not.
So people that are tired of hearing that the way they are born is a synonym for someone getting a cheap kill are getting together to avoid.
Sooo, do you think they would mind if we start a explicitly "straight" gamer group? You know, where we sit around and do all the things you mentioned(act like normal straight people that is..) and NOT GIVE A FUCK? Fair is fair, right? I mean, a long time ago people worked to get rid of segregation, but apparently they were all a bunch of fucking idiots because now the very types that actually were oppressed are now drawing the lines around themselves. Yes, I'm talking about more than just gays now...
Can't say or do anything anymore without some suitcase full of issues getting offended about it these days, BUT THAT'S PERFECTLY NORMAL. Nothing to see here folks...that is unless we are insulting one of the currently 'PC' things to insult that is. Then it's open season. Just don't be Christian, Straight, or White, and you can say whatever you want and if anyone makes the terrible error of insulting you, well bad things will ensue.
Enjoy your little party, just don't expect it to advance anything except your own (deluded)rationalizations. Now go ahead and make some stupidly witty remarks to make yourselves feel superior.
Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:49:RollinThundr wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:46:Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:42:RollinThundr wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:35:Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:22:RollinThundr wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:15:Verno wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 12:15:Listen to yourself, "They deserve protection" If they didn't have the need to constantly announce "We're gay pay us extra attention" No one would care in the first place
Nah that's totally invalid, there are countless examples of gays who do not dance in parades in San Fran being persecuted for their sexuality. The whole reason they need to have special interest groups is precisely because like many other minorities, they are attacked for being different. Gay people shouldn't have to hide their sexuality anymore than you or I should.
I hold pretty conservative values and there are a billion shitty special interest groups that need to stop whining but I'm a big believer in the right to free speech and expression.
I agree they need not hide, because really who cares if bobby likes boys? Or whatever. I'm just over the idea that the rest of us owe them anything because they're gay. Honestly who cares?
Who said we owe them anything, other than you know, equality?
This conference isn't about owing anyone anything, it's about letting gay people play video games competitively without constantly hearing that everyone that kills another person is gay, or to blow them, or whatever else idiots say over XBL, PSN and CS:S.
Perhaps they shouldn't play online then if they're that offended. Or only play with people they know? Surely this isn't why they've decided to have a gay only "video game convention"?
Let's just be honest, not that it matters but it is a cry for attention as usual. Look at us we're gay gamers we're going to have our own show, because we're gay! Big deal.
Isn't this Conference basically playing with people they know?
Also, where is it "gay only?" Do you think they make you have sex with a man before letting you register?
Lastly, no one really seems to be giving it as much attention as you and RailWizard, so I doubt it's a cry for attention.
I think the point I was trying to make that obviously eluded your simple liberal mind, is we have game conventions already, and being gay has zero to do with gaming, what's the point?
And the point I'm making is that, at nearly any of these conventions, you're likely to have people going "that's gay" or "you're gay" or "that kill was gay," or somehow using homosexuality as a negative. It's pretty much a given in any form of gaming, whether related to the gaming or not.
So people that are tired of hearing that the way they are born is a synonym for someone getting a cheap kill are getting together to avoid.
Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:42:
at nearly any of these conventions, you're likely to have people going "that's gay" or "you're gay" or "that kill was gay," or somehow using homosexuality as a negative.
Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:42:
Also, where is it "gay only?" Do you think they make you have sex with a man before letting you register?
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:46:Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:42:RollinThundr wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:35:Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:22:RollinThundr wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:15:Verno wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 12:15:Listen to yourself, "They deserve protection" If they didn't have the need to constantly announce "We're gay pay us extra attention" No one would care in the first place
Nah that's totally invalid, there are countless examples of gays who do not dance in parades in San Fran being persecuted for their sexuality. The whole reason they need to have special interest groups is precisely because like many other minorities, they are attacked for being different. Gay people shouldn't have to hide their sexuality anymore than you or I should.
I hold pretty conservative values and there are a billion shitty special interest groups that need to stop whining but I'm a big believer in the right to free speech and expression.
I agree they need not hide, because really who cares if bobby likes boys? Or whatever. I'm just over the idea that the rest of us owe them anything because they're gay. Honestly who cares?
Who said we owe them anything, other than you know, equality?
This conference isn't about owing anyone anything, it's about letting gay people play video games competitively without constantly hearing that everyone that kills another person is gay, or to blow them, or whatever else idiots say over XBL, PSN and CS:S.
Perhaps they shouldn't play online then if they're that offended. Or only play with people they know? Surely this isn't why they've decided to have a gay only "video game convention"?
Let's just be honest, not that it matters but it is a cry for attention as usual. Look at us we're gay gamers we're going to have our own show, because we're gay! Big deal.
Isn't this Conference basically playing with people they know?
Also, where is it "gay only?" Do you think they make you have sex with a man before letting you register?
Lastly, no one really seems to be giving it as much attention as you and RailWizard, so I doubt it's a cry for attention.
I think the point I was trying to make that obviously eluded your simple liberal mind, is we have game conventions already, and being gay has zero to do with gaming, what's the point?
Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:42:RollinThundr wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:35:Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:22:RollinThundr wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:15:Verno wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 12:15:Listen to yourself, "They deserve protection" If they didn't have the need to constantly announce "We're gay pay us extra attention" No one would care in the first place
Nah that's totally invalid, there are countless examples of gays who do not dance in parades in San Fran being persecuted for their sexuality. The whole reason they need to have special interest groups is precisely because like many other minorities, they are attacked for being different. Gay people shouldn't have to hide their sexuality anymore than you or I should.
I hold pretty conservative values and there are a billion shitty special interest groups that need to stop whining but I'm a big believer in the right to free speech and expression.
I agree they need not hide, because really who cares if bobby likes boys? Or whatever. I'm just over the idea that the rest of us owe them anything because they're gay. Honestly who cares?
Who said we owe them anything, other than you know, equality?
This conference isn't about owing anyone anything, it's about letting gay people play video games competitively without constantly hearing that everyone that kills another person is gay, or to blow them, or whatever else idiots say over XBL, PSN and CS:S.
Perhaps they shouldn't play online then if they're that offended. Or only play with people they know? Surely this isn't why they've decided to have a gay only "video game convention"?
Let's just be honest, not that it matters but it is a cry for attention as usual. Look at us we're gay gamers we're going to have our own show, because we're gay! Big deal.
Isn't this Conference basically playing with people they know?
Also, where is it "gay only?" Do you think they make you have sex with a man before letting you register?
Lastly, no one really seems to be giving it as much attention as you and RailWizard, so I doubt it's a cry for attention.
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:35:Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:22:RollinThundr wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:15:Verno wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 12:15:Listen to yourself, "They deserve protection" If they didn't have the need to constantly announce "We're gay pay us extra attention" No one would care in the first place
Nah that's totally invalid, there are countless examples of gays who do not dance in parades in San Fran being persecuted for their sexuality. The whole reason they need to have special interest groups is precisely because like many other minorities, they are attacked for being different. Gay people shouldn't have to hide their sexuality anymore than you or I should.
I hold pretty conservative values and there are a billion shitty special interest groups that need to stop whining but I'm a big believer in the right to free speech and expression.
I agree they need not hide, because really who cares if bobby likes boys? Or whatever. I'm just over the idea that the rest of us owe them anything because they're gay. Honestly who cares?
Who said we owe them anything, other than you know, equality?
This conference isn't about owing anyone anything, it's about letting gay people play video games competitively without constantly hearing that everyone that kills another person is gay, or to blow them, or whatever else idiots say over XBL, PSN and CS:S.
Perhaps they shouldn't play online then if they're that offended. Or only play with people they know? Surely this isn't why they've decided to have a gay only "video game convention"?
Let's just be honest, not that it matters but it is a cry for attention as usual. Look at us we're gay gamers we're going to have our own show, because we're gay! Big deal.
Beamer wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:22:RollinThundr wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:15:Verno wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 12:15:Listen to yourself, "They deserve protection" If they didn't have the need to constantly announce "We're gay pay us extra attention" No one would care in the first place
Nah that's totally invalid, there are countless examples of gays who do not dance in parades in San Fran being persecuted for their sexuality. The whole reason they need to have special interest groups is precisely because like many other minorities, they are attacked for being different. Gay people shouldn't have to hide their sexuality anymore than you or I should.
I hold pretty conservative values and there are a billion shitty special interest groups that need to stop whining but I'm a big believer in the right to free speech and expression.
I agree they need not hide, because really who cares if bobby likes boys? Or whatever. I'm just over the idea that the rest of us owe them anything because they're gay. Honestly who cares?
Who said we owe them anything, other than you know, equality?
This conference isn't about owing anyone anything, it's about letting gay people play video games competitively without constantly hearing that everyone that kills another person is gay, or to blow them, or whatever else idiots say over XBL, PSN and CS:S.
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 13:15:Verno wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 12:15:Listen to yourself, "They deserve protection" If they didn't have the need to constantly announce "We're gay pay us extra attention" No one would care in the first place
Nah that's totally invalid, there are countless examples of gays who do not dance in parades in San Fran being persecuted for their sexuality. The whole reason they need to have special interest groups is precisely because like many other minorities, they are attacked for being different. Gay people shouldn't have to hide their sexuality anymore than you or I should.
I hold pretty conservative values and there are a billion shitty special interest groups that need to stop whining but I'm a big believer in the right to free speech and expression.
I agree they need not hide, because really who cares if bobby likes boys? Or whatever. I'm just over the idea that the rest of us owe them anything because they're gay. Honestly who cares?
Verno wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 12:15:Listen to yourself, "They deserve protection" If they didn't have the need to constantly announce "We're gay pay us extra attention" No one would care in the first place
Nah that's totally invalid, there are countless examples of gays who do not dance in parades in San Fran being persecuted for their sexuality. The whole reason they need to have special interest groups is precisely because like many other minorities, they are attacked for being different. Gay people shouldn't have to hide their sexuality anymore than you or I should.
I hold pretty conservative values and there are a billion shitty special interest groups that need to stop whining but I'm a big believer in the right to free speech and expression.
UnderLord wrote on Sep 30, 2012, 19:32:
We're not the divisive ones, if other people want to believe they're a 'downtrodden minority' it's all in their heads, not mine.
RollinThundr wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 12:01:yuastnav wrote on Oct 1, 2012, 11:52:
It does not speak in your favour that you seek out this topic only to complain about how you are annoyed by its mere existence.
Oh sorry forgot to take my politically correct pills this morning. Gay people are just that people, like anyone else. Just because they like to bump uglies with the same gender doesn't make them special snowflakes who deserve their own "gaming convention"
Last I checked sexual orientation had zero to do with video games. All this is, is another cry for attention. Who gives a shit who they like to shack up with?
Listen to yourself, "They deserve protection" If they didn't have the need to constantly announce "We're gay pay us extra attention" No one would care in the first place