Got an email from microsoft, wanting to help "certify" minecraft for win 8. I told them to stop trying to ruin the pc as an open platform.
— Markus Persson (@notch) September 27, 2012
Verno wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 08:38:Muscular Beaver wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 21:15:
Those are closed OS. They always have been. How is it hypocrisy when you dont want an open OS to become closed? I mean... Windows 8 certification? For a game? WTF??
With that logic everyone is a hypocrite who uses anything closed and doesnt like Windows 8 because it tries to go the same way.
Yep exactly. Windows 8 is a step down a path that many of you will not like. People keep pointing to other closed platforms, well how badly do you want Windows to turn into that? Microsoft has been an iron fisted dicator with Xbox Live, I really don't want to see them have complete platform control from top to bottom - distro, certification, etc. When they can take a cut and control everything, are people really gullible enough to believe they won't try their hardest to push the market in that direct? Corporate workers are a stop gap to this scenario, not a permanent obstacle. Has there been any choice involved with the adoption of Metro? That's their attitude, remember it.
I don't really like where the future is heading - shitty app management, cut down features and shitloads of negative space. It's a huge step backwards considering all of the progress made in the past twenty years. I'm not buying Windows 8 as a result. There is certainly room for innovation in the market but Microsoft didn't do that here, they played me-too yet again.
Yep, in Windows 8 you have a choice whether to use Metro apps or not, not sure that is much of a choice in the first place but whatever. You can do that in Windows 8. For now.
Dev wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 23:45:Silicon Avatar wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 23:23:I highly doubt that. Most windows users are the kinda people who use word and web, and thats about it. That type of user won't even know that there's another mode besides metro.
Nobody is going to use Metro UI exclusively on the PC. Most everybody will use the desktop and treat Metro like a full screen start button.
Muscular Beaver wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 21:15:
Those are closed OS. They always have been. How is it hypocrisy when you dont want an open OS to become closed? I mean... Windows 8 certification? For a game? WTF??
With that logic everyone is a hypocrite who uses anything closed and doesnt like Windows 8 because it tries to go the same way.
Dades wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 18:25:
Protesting anything negative about Microsoft apparently.
Linux's biggest enemy isn't Microsoft - it's Linux.
Flo wrote on Sep 28, 2012, 03:55:
Boot times are awesome with Win 8, even better than Win 7. That plus [WinKey]
- X] combination while ignoring metro gives me a pretty good experience.
Silicon Avatar wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 23:23:I highly doubt that. Most windows users are the kinda people who use word and web, and thats about it. That type of user won't even know that there's another mode besides metro.
Nobody is going to use Metro UI exclusively on the PC. Most everybody will use the desktop and treat Metro like a full screen start button.
Doombringer wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 20:39:
But this guy had no problem certifying Minecraft as an iOS app? Hypocrite much?
I love these people who give Microsoft crap for their pursuit of a closed platform, but give Apple a pass on A) iOS in total, B) the Mac App Store, and C) Gatekeeper.
Parallax Abstraction wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 11:27:
*snip* ... but if you're going to make the open platforms argument but be on those two, it's hard not to look like a hypocrite.
Doombringer wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 20:39:
But this guy had no problem certifying Minecraft as an iOS app? Hypocrite much?
I love these people who give Microsoft crap for their pursuit of a closed platform, but give Apple a pass on A) iOS in total, B) the Mac App Store, and C) Gatekeeper.
Enough with this BS made up crap for reasons to justify not wanting Windows 8. All theses complaints about "closing" the system are completely invalid. It is only adding another method of acquiring content, in a more secure and controlled manner. NOTHING is being closed down!
Enahs wrote on Sep 27, 2012, 19:48:
Let us clear up a lot of ignorance (not an insult, that is not a bad word). And hopefully people, especially developers will stop being so dramatic about Windows 8.
Windows 8 does not magically make your existing Windows software not work. It works exactly the same as before. If it works in WIn7, it works in Win 8.
You do not have to get approval from Microsoft to install new software, or develop software for Windows 8. No certification required.
For the app store, which is a controlled environment, for he non power user, you have to have your application certified. This means a basic check to make sure it will function properly, and not steal all of your personal data. This is good for the average user.
This does not actually effect us that are power users and play games on our PC. We can still do it just as we have always done.
Enough with this BS made up crap for reasons to justify not wanting Windows 8. All theses complaints about "closing" the system are completely invalid. It is only adding another method of acquiring content, in a more secure and controlled manner. NOTHING is being closed down!