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MrsBlue is off to her new job today, and with no ties remaining to Disney, I no longer have a potential conflict of interest to disclaim related to reporting Disney-related game news. With their disinterest in the PC platform there was nothing to be conflicted over during that span anyway, but it makes life easier for everybody if there's no potential for that to worry about. She is back with a more traditional book publisher now, so there is no gaming connection to acknowledge going forward.

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35. Re: removed Aug 20, 2012, 15:24 ASeven
 
Prez wrote on Aug 20, 2012, 14:03:
Suicide really only seems selfish to someone who is of sound mind and not intimately familiar with what the person who considers it or goes through with it is gong through. Where depression is concerned, when the mental state where suicide becomes a viable option is reached, you are no longer thinking in terms of what affect your actions will have; you are solely focused on ending the unbearable, all-consuming pain that you feel. Therapy can help, IF you can afford it and IF you find a good therapist, but that's a lot of "if's. In the case of being faced with dying of a terrible wasting illness I imagine that depression can easily be a factor, but I am not experienced with such a case. What Verno and nin have said makes a whole lot of sense though. If killing oneself is how the victim attempts to lessen the suffering of his family (instead of watching him waste away and suffer endlessly), if anything that sounds like a self-LESS act, not a selfish one. The problem is (and the reason I'm still here, incidentally) is that younger kids don't look at it that way - all they understand is that daddy took himself away from us, and that can really mess them up.


This so very much. To put the burden of guilt of suicide on the one making it makes things so much worse. Suicide is, in a way, guiltless since everyone suffers and none more than the one committing the act.

Suicide is a cowardly act? Maybe wanting them to stick around in pain and utter misery is the selfish and cowardly act instead. One thing is for sure, suicide is too complex to throw the coward word around at it. Lorcin, you think the ones that stick around suffer with a sudden goodbye? How about the one that is forced to stick around in pain and abject suffering feels, happy and joy? In the same tone that you say suicide is cowardly I can also easily say that wanting people in hopeless pain that cannot be fixed, not in the present day, to stick around is as coward as well.

For people with diseases that unfortunately cannot be cured with current day technology and medicine knowledge then it's up to that person, and nobody else, to make the decision. It would be better if they could stick around to say goodbye but as many pointed out sometimes they themselves think that saying goodbye will make the loved ones hurt more and so they leave suddenly.

Those afflicted with depression, a disease that in many ways is as soul destroying as cancer itself, there is hope but as Prez said, that hope often with too many ifs tragically. While taking away cancer from all those that suffer from it is still a bit away in time in medical terms, depression can be helped nowadays but only if, as Prez said, the right things happen. When they do not it's as tragic as someone succumbing from a physical disease and no less painful. This I talk from experience.
 
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