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28. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 15:16 jdreyer
 
Matshock wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 14:01:

I'm not wasting time- you're a true believer

Kettle, meet Pot.
 
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27. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 15:14 Axis
 
Quicker Obama is out of office, the better.  
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26. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 15:02 DukeFNukem
 
Hopefully, in about 90 days. You must not work for a living huh?

Edit: I do seriously question why a gaming website is posting something completely unrelated to gaming news though. Is gaming news that slow?
 
Just because you aren't afraid of something doesn't it mean it can't hurt you...
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25. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 15:00 xornand
 
Soo much derp on the thread.  
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24. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 14:56 nin
 

I'd like to know when the divine prophecies that Matshock announced will come to pass.

 
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23. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 14:54 DukeFNukem
 
Well said MatShock, I hope you are right. I would take Herman Monster as President versus Barrack Obama for another 4 painful years. Or Elmer Fudd, or Bugs Bunny even. They couldn't do worse than the current President. Obamacare, Solyndra, Fast and Furious, backstabbing Israel, what else I am forgetting? Help me out. Oh yeah. 8.5% unemployment that is still Bush's fault after almost 4 years. And repeating that is gonna make things better for everyone. Just gotta keep saying it enough times, kind of like saying enough hail Mary's will wash away your sins.

"It's Bushs' fault...It's Bushs' fault!". Yeah, the unemployment rate is going down already. No really, I can feel it!!!

Wecome to the Divided Socialist States of America!!!

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Just because you aren't afraid of something doesn't it mean it can't hurt you...
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22. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 14:35 Bodolza
 
Looks like political season is heating up at Blue's.

Matshock wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 14:16:
China's one child policy- no arms in the UK, penalties for fat people, gas is $10.00 a gallon to pay all the taxes for healthcare in the UK.

But that could never happen here- that's your next line right?

I don't see any facts about the US here. Do you base all your political views on fear and speculation? Personally, I prefer to have actual evidence before making a claim.

Edit: Looks like nin beat me to it.
 
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21. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 14:32 nin
 
China's one child policy- no arms in the UK, penalties for fat people, gas is $10.00 a gallon to pay all the taxes for healthcare in the UK.

But that could never happen here- that's your next line right?

You're correct. None of that is happening here. You're preaching something called FUD. Fear. Uncertainty. Doubt. No reason or logic. Just fear. If you don't vote a certain way, all sorts of scary things will happen...

 
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20. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 14:30 Verno
 
Matshock wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 14:01:
If the .gov provides my health care then I know they must also control me to moderate their costs: what I eat, what I drive, if I can have children and how many, if I drink, if I smoke (that includes your beloved weeds kids), if I'm armed, if I exercise, how old I'm allowed to be, if I 'm allowed to survive cancer, etc., etc. etc. And all the same applies to all my family that I am responsible for.

No thank you. And don't bother telling me it won't happen, it already is happening.

This is one of the things my party gets really wrong and it bugs me because people sound like talking points when they get all alarmist about national health care. It's just a logical fallacy anyway, Canada has stricter gun control than the US in some ways but not others. How does that relate in any way to its health care system? You're trying to create a false link between two separate ideas. As if adopting national health care explains why Canada has stricter hand gun control but still allows people to have as many kids as they want.

Talk about how private does it better, talk about the greater number of specialists in a private health care system but please don't bring up Rush Limbaugh style talking points that were designed to scare stupid people into voting a certain way. It just muddies the water and discredits any legitimate criticism of national health care when people go there.

It's totally unnecessary too. There are a lot of legitimate advantages and disadvantages to both types of health care, I don't see why people need to get silly with false comparative extremes.

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19. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 14:22 DrEvil
 
Matshock wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 14:09:
Obama had two years to grant blanket amnesty and he didn't. He could have sorted the whole thing in your favor in fifteen minutes and he didn't. And you're still waiting at his feet for him to grant you freedom.

First of all, I'm not waiting for amnesty. I was born here, and my ancestors were both native american indians and caucasian immigrants. Second, amnesty would be beyond the president's executive powers since immediately after granting amnesty, it would be invalid again until congress changes immigration law.

His position in fact is that your immigrant family members are still likely illegal- he can come for you whenever he wants to but he is graciously choosing not to, for now.

Thanks for making ASSumptions.

We racist Americans only want two things regarding Mexico: get control of the boarder and make immigrants suffer all the same taxes and regulations that we do while they are here. Mass exportation is a bogey man story told by Democrats to keep you in line.

If you think immigrants don't suffer, you're dead wrong. To keep the government from finding out, the vast majority of businesses still withhold taxes from the paychecks of "undocumented" immigrants and treat them exactly as they would a normal employee in terms of taxes.

So it's even worse than you'd like to believe; the current situation makes immigrants permanent second-class citizens. They grow up here, live here, pay taxes here, but don't get citizenship and so don't have the right to vote to determine how their taxes are spent. They can't legally get driver's licenses in most states, and they can't get many forms of insurance we take for granted.

Even more tellingly, I bet you're not aware that a large portion of those undocumented immigrants actually file their federal taxes at the end of the year using a federal tax ID that was assigned to them at one point in the past. That's right; they have no valid social security card, but still end up paying and filing federal and state taxes.
 
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18. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 14:16 Matshock
 
nin wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 14:11:
If the .gov provides my health care then I know they must also control me to moderate their costs: what I eat, what I drive, if I can have children and how many, if I drink, if I smoke (that includes your beloved weeds kids), if I'm armed, if I exercise, how old I'm allowed to be, if I 'm allowed to survive cancer, etc., etc. etc. And all the same applies to my all my family that I am responsible for.

No thank you. And don't bother telling me it won't happen, it already is happening.

Could you list some examples regarding healthcare relating to arms, the number of children you can have, what you eat, and where you can drive, and how old you're allowed to be?


China's one child policy- no arms in the UK, penalties for fat people, gas is $10.00 a gallon to pay all the taxes for healthcare in the UK.

But that could never happen here- that's your next line right?

BLIND.
 
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17. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 14:15 NegaDeath
 
Matshock wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 14:01:
If the .gov provides my health care then etc etc

No thank you. And don't bother telling me it won't happen, it already is happening.

Can't speak to the health situation in the US but we've had government funded healthcare up here in Canada for 51 years (66 in my province) and none of that has happened, nor is it on the horizon. Leaders only behave badly if you let them.
 
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16. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 14:11 nin
 
If the .gov provides my health care then I know they must also control me to moderate their costs: what I eat, what I drive, if I can have children and how many, if I drink, if I smoke (that includes your beloved weeds kids), if I'm armed, if I exercise, how old I'm allowed to be, if I 'm allowed to survive cancer, etc., etc. etc. And all the same applies to my all my family that I am responsible for.

No thank you. And don't bother telling me it won't happen, it already is happening.

Could you list some examples regarding healthcare relating to arms, the number of children you can have, what you eat, and where you can drive, and how old you're allowed to be?

 
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15. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 14:10 Cutter
 
Obama is a failure no doubt, but you're seriously high if you think Romney is the answer to America's problems. Things will get even worse under him and his ilk.

 
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14. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 14:09 Matshock
 
DrEvil wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 13:58:
Matshock wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 13:48:
Everyone likes money. They have less under Obama- it's simple arithmetic. Not enough people yet value ideology over prosperity, thankfully.

Actually, I have more money under Obama; and I believe will get even more if his administration is able to get certain social and immigration policies enacted as that will favorably impact my friends and family.

Do I like everything he's done? Hell no. But Romney is not the answer.

Obama had two years to grant blanket amnesty and he didn't. He could have sorted the whole thing in your favor in fifteen minutes and he didn't. And you're still waiting at his feet for him to grant you freedom.

His position in fact is that your immigrant family members are still likely illegal- he can come for you whenever he wants to but he is graciously choosing not to, for now.

We racist Americans only want two things regarding Mexico: get control of the boarder and make immigrants suffer all the same taxes and regulations that we do while they are here. Mass exportation is a bogey man story told by Democrats to keep you in line.

I'm done wasting time- internet ideologues aren't going to win this election they can just keep talking fear and division.
 
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13. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 14:01 Matshock
 
DrEvil wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 13:39:
Matshock wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 12:57:
I don't want national health care. I don't even care if you understand why- the evidence against such a thing being beneficial is so overwhelming that only a blind ideologue could ignore it.

Really? Care to point at some of that evidence from a neutral third-party? Why is the USA the only major, developed economy country that doesn't have it? Some of the greatest minds in history (such as Stephen Hawking) are only alive today because of national healthcare programs in their respective countries.

Healthcare should be provided for every member of a society; a "rising tide lifts all boats" as they say. Any economist will tell you that until you take care of the basic needs of a people in a society, they won't have disposable income to inject into the economy.

I'm not wasting time- you're a true believer so let me just tell you how I feel personally because I think that will have more impact.

If the .gov provides my health care then I know they must also control me to moderate their costs: what I eat, what I drive, if I can have children and how many, if I drink, if I smoke (that includes your beloved weeds kids), if I'm armed, if I exercise, how old I'm allowed to be, if I 'm allowed to survive cancer, etc., etc. etc. And all the same applies to all my family that I am responsible for.

No thank you. And don't bother telling me it won't happen, it already is happening.

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12. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 13:58 DrEvil
 
Matshock wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 13:48:
Everyone likes money. They have less under Obama- it's simple arithmetic. Not enough people yet value ideology over prosperity, thankfully.

Actually, I have more money under Obama; and I believe will get even more if his administration is able to get certain social and immigration policies enacted as that will favorably impact my friends and family.

Do I like everything he's done? Hell no. But Romney is not the answer.
 
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11. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 13:48 Matshock
 
DrEvil wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 13:32:
Matshock wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 12:34:
You're 3+ years behind the times and that's why Obama will lose.

You have some pretty interesting claims in your post, and some statistics I'm pretty sure were pulled out of some random nether region.

You seem to imply that Romney is superior to Obama, but you completely gloss over the fact that despite Obama's failures, Romney would be a disaster from a religious freedom and personal freedom perspective.

I don't have much else to say about the rest of your post except that my personal belief is that you are so very wrong. I can't fathom how Romney could win at this point, unless Americans have another collective lapse of consciousness and zombie-vote for Romney like they did for Bush.

You also appear to completely ignore the large segment of non-Caucasian voters who I sincerely doubt would vote for Romney.

Ideology. Race divisions. Identity politics.

Everyone likes money. They have less under Obama- it's simple arithmetic. Not enough people yet value ideology over prosperity, thankfully.
 
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10. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 13:39 DrEvil
 
Matshock wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 12:57:
I don't want national health care. I don't even care if you understand why- the evidence against such a thing being beneficial is so overwhelming that only a blind ideologue could ignore it.

Really? Care to point at some of that evidence from a neutral third-party? Why is the USA the only major, developed economy country that doesn't have it? Some of the greatest minds in history (such as Stephen Hawking) are only alive today because of national healthcare programs in their respective countries.

Healthcare should be provided for every member of a society; a "rising tide lifts all boats" as they say. Any economist will tell you that until you take care of the basic needs of a people in a society, they won't have disposable income to inject into the economy.
 
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9. Re: Morning Metaverse Aug 7, 2012, 13:32 DrEvil
 
Matshock wrote on Aug 7, 2012, 12:34:
You're 3+ years behind the times and that's why Obama will lose.

You have some pretty interesting claims in your post, and some statistics I'm pretty sure were pulled out of some random nether region.

You seem to imply that Romney is superior to Obama, but you completely gloss over the fact that despite Obama's failures, Romney would be a disaster from a religious freedom and personal freedom perspective.

I don't have much else to say about the rest of your post except that my personal belief is that you are so very wrong. I can't fathom how Romney could win at this point, unless Americans have another collective lapse of consciousness and zombie-vote for Romney like they did for Bush.

You also appear to completely ignore the large segment of non-Caucasian voters who I sincerely doubt would vote for Romney.
 
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