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21. Re: etc., etc. Jul 28, 2012, 09:17 Eirikrautha
Dev wrote on Jul 28, 2012, 06:28:
Why the "hate"?

Well maybe also its MS making it so metro stuff MUST be sold through MS store since windows won't let you install unsigned apps and the only way to get it signed is to go through MS, and MS can refuse to allow you to buy a signature for an app for any reason? What you want to get that free open source tool that does something very handy in metro flavor? DENIED.

Maybe its MS making the minimum price of metro apps $1.49?

And didn't I read something about that the new version of MS express studio will only do metro apps?

Maybe its MS getting OEM's to put mandatory BIOS enforcement on only booting "secure" OS options? Those options being windows... and windows. If you buy a dell and want to put a random flavor of linux on it, tough crap.

Maybe its MS tripling the price of windows 8 on phones for the OEMs?

I haven't even touched on things like metro not even being windows since metro stuff only runs full screen (or nearly so).

Some of this stuff is probably illegal in some countries. Of course MS will just swallow a multi hundred million dollar fine and call it the cost of doing business. They've done it in the past. Heck, they lost $4 billion all told on xbox 1 (after including all profits from things like software) and called it the price of entering the console market.


And let's not forget that MS considers Metro to be THE UI in W8. That means, while they might allow legacy desktop in W8 for backwards compatibility, that they consider the desktop dead. So there is no guarantee that they will include the desktop at all in W9 (and have hinted that they won't). Hint number one: until the outcry made them change it, VS2012E would only compile Metro apps. That means no windows (in your "Windows" 8) and MS approval before deployment.

MS sees the Metro UI as the future of their OS (to help them lock down content). Morons who blindly ignore what they are trying to do annoy me as much as the morons who decry the direction that modern developers are going and still bought Diablo 3 ("I don't like always-on requirements for single player or over-monetization of games... but it's Diablo!")...
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