El Pit wrote on Jul 22, 2012, 13:34:
Can anybody hook me up with Dead Island? It's not available in my region. My Steam id is "Hagbard Celine" (member of the Blue's News group).

Sounds like you already got it

Can anybody hook me up with Dead Island? It's not available in my region. My Steam id is "Hagbard Celine" (member of the Blue's News group).

PHJF wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 13:06:
All that clamoring paid off I guess, $18 (wow what a deal!) for ARMA. Still too much for the privilege of alpha testing a mod, if you ask me.

With 215 hours played, it's the greatest alpha ever. I paid $30.

NegaDeath wrote on Jul 22, 2012, 03:46:
GFWL, you are a piece of F'ing shit. I knew that before but you reinforced it today.

At least its actually WORKING for you. Somewhat anyway. Last game I installed with it it took me hours to get GfWL so the game would even start.

There was a link posted in one of these other steam sale threads telling how to add all the DLC from batman to your account. Including a link to do it from the MS web site as I recall (so you can just click on CD keys from steam library and copy/paste them)

GFWL, you are a piece of F'ing shit. I knew that before but you reinforced it today.

So I purchase Arkham City and the Harley Quinn DLC from the steam sale. Game installs fine, launcher license activate works fine. Get into game, GFWL needs to update. It updates, says I have to restart game. Sigh, fine. Go back in and GFWL needs to update....again. But this time it requests a restart. Wtf? Restart PC, getting pissed. Game starts, I go to enter the DLC key in the GFWL menu. I get an "unknown error". I click on more information and it takes me back to the DLC info screen. I click on download again, same error. I click on the troubleshoot button, it takes me back to the DLC info screen. I try one last option and this time select ignore. It takes me back to the DLC info screen. Restart the game and try to activate DLC again, GFWL crashes and takes game with it. Giving up for tonight, going to bed.

Inexcusable. For anyone who defends GFWL this is the kind of shit people talk about when they say they hate it. Steam never pulls crap like this with me. Hell even Origin works better.

Edit:
Against my better judgement I give it one more try. Down the rabbit hole I go! Still giving error. I notice it's installed a "games for windows marketplace" program in the start list. What the hell I'll give it a try. The so called marketplace screen is just a link to the xbox website. Apparently they didn't update the program to actually show products. Classy. No option anywhere to add a DLC key that I can see. The glutton for punishment that I am I click on help so I can see if the "add dlc key" option is buried somewhere. Clicking on help opens up windows media player.....

Sweet zombie jesus. It's gone from crap to being so bad it might defy the laws of nature. Now it's DEFINATELY bedtime. Gnight all.

This comment was edited on Jul 22, 2012, 03:59.

hb3d wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 18:04:
I have never complained when people don't agree with my opinion of Amazon. What I have complained about is hypocrites who complain that I have a positive opinion of Amazon and post it here.

I suppose you didn't notice that post where I said you might just be posting about amazon because you use it and like it. But when you attack others, it makes me wonder.

Heck, I've posted sales from amazon before. IMHO, people should have an opportunity to know know where the best prices are, and decide on wtf ever factors they want. For instance, for me, the fact that something is on steam is an important factor to me, so I look for amazon sales that give you steam codes.

hb3d wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 18:02:

Dev wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 15:47:
"Pimp" steam? lol.

You advertise for Steam on Blue's a lot. I personally don't care that you do. You should be more accurate when you do though.

"Advertise"? Huh? I mention steam sales primarily in the on sale threads, because thats where its on topic. And generally only if blue doesn't already link it. Not sure how that's advertising. I also mention EA sales if they have good ones (which is rare) or amazon sales, or GMG or GoG sales, or whatever.

Man, if only I DID get paid to advertise that stuff.

My goal is to help inform people so they can make an informed decision when they buy. I'm a bit of a cheapskate and I like to pay the lowest prices on stuff, and I figure there's probably other people out there who like to save money. Like when I repeatedly posted about waiting to get ARMA 2 on steam until the last day of the steam sales to see if it went on sale (which it did btw, today in fact). I hope some people saved some money by doing that. Going by the top selling charts on steam during the sale, a lot of people didn't do that, and missed out on saving some money. But hey, its their money. If they want to waste it by not waiting a couple days, its totally up to them.
Incidentally, if I was "pimping" for valve/steam, I would have ENCOURAGED people to run out and waste money on buying ARMA 2 when it was on a crappy 20% sale.

And I already apologized for making a mistake about the batman DLC. I'm human, I'm not 100% perfect or right all the time. I try and admit when I make mistakes.

Prez wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 18:07:
I think Dev is like me - Steam is our platform of choice.

Exactly correct. And thats DESPITE the failings and rough edges of steam. Because even with those, I can still play my games, when I want to, how I want to, without much getting in my way, and in a convenient fashion. And any time I have to deal with something else like GfWL, it reminds me of why I prefer steam, because it DOES get in the way of me playing games, every game I run with it makes me spend HOURS trying to get it to get out of my freaking way and let me play what I PAID FOR.

EA had a great opportunity to do valve one better and release a feature impressive polished client with origin. They would have been working uphill with me personally because of my existing 500+ game library on steam. But they didn't even bother to spend a little money and time in doing that. It wouldn't have taken much, valve has left so many things minimally done in steam, or not done at all. But Origin doesn't have any strong draws over steam. In fact, its worse in some ways.

I've tried most platforms, and despite its rough edges, steam still seems to be one of the best. And despite valve's mis-steps and occasional broken promises, I still trust them more than I do any other publisher in the industry. For me, thats based on track records of how often they screw over customers. Valve has a comparatively low frequency history of that compared to oh say EA.

nin wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 22:40:
I most certainty do. I shop there all the time (I wear my prime membership the fuck OUT, just ask the UPS guy).

Heheh, or ask amazon how much money they lose on shipping you stuff? I have a prime trial, and it sure is handy buying something like the recent tire pressure gauge with integrated tread depth meter for $6 with free 2 day shipping. I probably wouldn't have if they charged another $5+ in shipping.
Or when I purchase like 5 things in a day and they send FIVE SEPARATE packages to me.

This comment was edited on Jul 21, 2012, 23:47.

nin, for one has. Everytime I mention an Amazon sale here, he needlessly questions my motives for doing so. The majority of my posts about Amazon are also facts not my opinion of it.

If you were to post about something besides amazon, maybe you wouldn't look like a shill. You don't talk about what you like, or what you're playing, or what random piece of news people are talking about in various threads. You just talk about amazon sales. And that looks odd, since you bring it up almost constantly. It sounds like an ad.

But That strikes me as odd because he posted not too long ago about how he really "Loves him some Amazon".

I most certainty do. I shop there all the time (I wear my prime membership the fuck OUT, just ask the UPS guy). But I don't use almost every single one of my posts to tell people about it.

nin, for one has.

Maybe he does - who can say besides he himself? But That strikes me as odd because he posted not too long ago about how he really "Loves him some Amazon".

Actually pimping was nin's term for it not mine.

I am not interested in a pissing match - 1 this week was more than enough - but you DID use that word referring to Dev. You say you didn't really mean anything by it though so it's cool; just setting the record straight.

Anyway nin does a lot of posting here so I guess it's either learn to deal with him or ignore him. He really isn't that hard to get along with from my experience. I find him pretty cool and his posts actually make me laugh often.

Prez wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 18:07:
Again, I don't think anyone has a problem with you liking Amazon, or Amazon's game downloads for that matter

nin, for one has. Everytime I mention an Amazon sale here, he needlessly questions my motives for doing so. The majority of my posts about Amazon are also facts not my opinion of it.

You jumped nin's shit for simply posting a Steam flash sale

No, I did not. I simply pointed out to nin that the game he wanted was not up for vote. Then I mentioned that the game he wanted was currently on sale at Amazon for less than the flash sale would have been.

I did take a dig at him by saying that he probably wouldn't buy the game from Amazon because I had posted the notice of the sale here, but that was me just returning his previous hostility. I didn't start the fire.

then went right from that to 'pimping" (to steal your own word) Amazon.

Actually pimping was nin's term for it not mine. I simply used the term to make a point about hypocrisy.

This comment was edited on Jul 21, 2012, 18:18.

hb3d wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 18:02:

Dev wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 15:47:
"Pimp" steam? lol.

You advertise for Steam on Blue's a lot. I personally don't care that you do. I just get pissed when hypocrites like nin complain when I mention Amazon's sales or say something positive about Amazon.

Again, I don't think anyone has a problem with you liking Amazon, or Amazon's game downloads for that matter - it's a great service. But you are, frankly downright rude about it at times. You jumped nin's shit for simply posting a Steam flash sale because it was 3 am where you were, then went right from that to 'pimping" (to steal your own word) Amazon.

I think Dev is like me - Steam is our platform of choice. Why you take that as "pimping" is beyond me. Dev has actually been called "anti-Valve" once or twice by some here because of how critical he is of their work practices. Anyway, people get accused of "shilling" here all the time. Some of it is warranted, some not so much. I wouldn't take it personally. I LOVE Amazon for movies and music downloads; just not as much as Steam for games.

Prez wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 15:55:
Which is fine, but he seems to get rude when anyone doesn't agree.

I have never complained when people don't agree with my opinion of Amazon. What I have complained about is hypocrites who complain that I have a positive opinion of Amazon and post it here.

Dev wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 15:47:
"Pimp" steam? lol.

You advertise for Steam on Blue's a lot. I personally don't care that you do. You should be more accurate when you do though. I just get pissed when hypocrites like nin complain when I mention Amazon's sales or say something positive about Amazon. My use of the term "pimping" was a reference to that hypocrisy.

However I believe you can purchase batman DLC as a gift even if you don't own it...I doubt you can activate it without the base game on steam though. And without activating it I'm not sure you could get the cd key to enter into GfWL.

No, you can't activate it or get the key.

This comment was edited on Jul 21, 2012, 18:21.

"Pimp" steam? lol. I'm also one of the most vocal critics of valve's failings. You haven't been on here long if you haven't noticed that.

Well he's been here long enough for most everyone to know he prefers Amazon's game downloads. Which is fine, but he seems to get rude when anyone doesn't agree.

hb3d wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 14:18:

Dev wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 13:13:
And, as I predicted, batman city is on sale again with the DLC on steam (as others have mentioned, you can get it on steam, it activates on GfWL and you can use the DLC regardless of where you bought the base game).

No you can't because you can't buy the DLC on Steam if you don't also own the base game on Steam. That's how Steam works, and given how much you pimp Steam, you should know that by now. See this and this. You can buy just DLC at other digital distributors like Amazon and Gamersgate, but not Steam.

"Pimp" steam? lol. I'm also one of the most vocal critics of valve's failings. You haven't been on here long if you haven't noticed that.

In fact just today another one of steam's failings came to mind. Its hard to tell what DLC you own on a game without adding it all to cart (steam should automatically show which ones you own and which you don't). And no, looking at the DLC tab in a game's properties doesn't help much. They are often named cryptic things that have nothing at all to do with what the DLC is, and it would be far more trouble than its worth to try and figure it out that when you get over a couple DLC . And then, once I added all 18 of the DLC from dawn of war 2 to my cart, I had to click each one individually to remove it since steam doesn't have a remove all from cart button.
And thats if steam is playing nice. Some DLC it doesn't show you own them in the cart, until the final checkout screen and it finally remembers and says "oh yeah you can't buy this you own it already"

So anyway, back on topic. My bad, I forgot about that, I'm not always right.
However I believe you can purchase batman DLC as a gift even if you don't own it, and you can either gift it to someone else or keep it in your inventory as a gift. I doubt you can activate it without the base game on steam though. And without activating it I'm not sure you could get the cd key to enter into GfWL. I'm not going to run the numbers and see if that extra $10 for and extra copy of the base game makes sense over what you'd save from gamestop getting the DLC alone for today, but in some cases that might make sense monetarily.

Thanks, Prez & Bucky. Picked it up (along with Torchlight and WH40K Dawn of War pack... and The Witcher yesterday... sheesh!). Now if I can find time to play it...

Dev wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 13:13:
And, as I predicted, batman city is on sale again with the DLC on steam (as others have mentioned, you can get it on steam, it activates on GfWL and you can use the DLC regardless of where you bought the base game).

No you can't because you can't buy the DLC on Steam if you don't also own the base game on Steam. That's how Steam works, and given how much you pimp Steam, you should know that by now. See this and this. You can buy just DLC at other digital distributors like Amazon and Gamersgate, but not Steam.

This comment was edited on Jul 21, 2012, 14:36.

And, sure enough, ARMA 2 is now 40% off.

PHJF wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 13:06:
All that clamoring paid off I guess, $18 (wow what a deal!) for ARMA. Still too much for the privilege of alpha testing a mod, if you ask me.

They are getting a bit greedy IMHO.

But hey, its a smart business move, charge what the market will bear. And since ARMA 2 has been near top of steam charts for months without a sale, and stayed near top during the steam sales at only 20% off, then 40% is a good business move. And following it with a weekend ARMA 2 sale in a month or so at 50% off would also be a good move.

PHJF wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 13:06:
All that clamoring paid off I guess, $18 (wow what a deal!) for ARMA. Still too much for the privilege of alpha testing a mod, if you ask me.

What does PHJF stand for anyhow? Is it "whine" in Zulu?

And, as I predicted, batman city is on sale again with the DLC on steam (as others have mentioned, you can get it on steam, it activates on GfWL and you can use the DLC regardless of where you bought the base game). Cheaper than gamestop too.

Batman Arkham City: Harley Quinn's Revenge
-66% $3.39

Batman Arkham City: Nightwing Bundle
-66% $2.37

Batman Arkham City: Robin Bundle
-66% $2.37

Batman Arkham City: Challenge Map Pack
-66% $1.01

Batman Arkham City: Arkham City Skins Pack
-66% $1.69