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MrsBlue is home from work today, which should have provided a perfect opportunity to continue the discussion of whether to pop an air conditioner into one of the windows in the living room. That is, of course, if it wasn't for the rainstorm that has taken the local temperature down to 66°F at the moment, which I'm pretty sure is not going to help my argument. As usual, the key to life is timing.

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29. Re: Out of the Blue Jul 21, 2012, 01:46 Prez
Cutter wrote on Jul 21, 2012, 00:22:
It's one thing to be fixated on violence, another to shoot up a place.

And my statement still stands. We're not talking about a mugging or something, but a theater with a few hundred people in a dark room freaking out in the midst of teargas, smoke and automatic gun fire. Do you really want to trust that if 20 of those people are carrying guns they're going to be cool as SEALS and ignore the chaos around them to hunt down the gunman or more likely just whip out a gun and shoot anything that looks like a potential threat to them? Thanks, but I'll take my chances on running or hiding in that case.

Cutter is right. I am a licensed carrier and carry my weapon wherever I'm legally allowed to (including movie theaters), but that does not mean I am obligated or even allowed to whip it out and start shooting like John Wayne in every possible situation. Be a licensed carrier is a big responsibility; you have to be able to use sound judgement and discretion as readily and rapidly as you are to use your Glock.

In the case of the movie theater incident in Colorado, before doing anything I probably would have had to avoided shitting myself out of fear. Then, most likely flight or fight mode decision time kicks in. Assuming I hadn't just run in terror, or wasn't allowed to by the circumstances I would have assessed the situation as to whether 1) I had a reasonably good chance to save my life and/or the lives of others by using my firearm, and 2) I felt I had a good chance to safely isolate the dangerous individual or individuals without putting the lives of innocents in even more danger than they already were. That sounds easy enough when you sit and contemplate it under normal conditions, but in truth it's a pretty tall order when such a chaotic situation as I'm sure the Colorado incident was suddenly arises out of nowhere and you are forced to make split second decisions. Given the details I am aware of in this particular incident, I think it's very likely that I would have left my gun holstered and tried to make a safe exit. Not assured; given a clear shot I would certainly at least have tried to stop the killings if possible, but it's not like I would have been playing Hollywood cop running through the theater looking for a showdown with the bad guy.

As to whether I should be allowed to carry or not, I'll leave that to others to bicker over. As it stands right now, I am, and I do. And I take the responsibility to do so VERY seriously. I bet right now George Zimmerman was wishing he had as well, but that is another discussion.
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