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Yeah, yesterday was pretty darned hot, and today is shaping up to be more of the same. I have to say, I remain amazed at how livable our house is with only the one air conditioner here in the attic. Just a benefit of a house built before AC even existed, when finding ways to naturally abate the heat were vital.

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30. Re: Out of the Blue Jun 23, 2012, 14:09 Matshock
Orogogus wrote on Jun 23, 2012, 12:28:
Matshock wrote on Jun 22, 2012, 12:01:
as I alluded to before, greedy & incompetent governments with taxation agendas have an absolute monopoly on the research so that's not surprising.

This just sounds incredibly contrived and tinfoil hat every time you bring it up as an arguing point. Greedy governments don't need to make up stories about climate change to raise taxes. They can raise taxes just because. In countries where they have to care about votes, the demographic swayed by climate change arguments is the same one that would be willing to shift the tax burden from low earners to corporations. It's in these governments' interest to have companies earning more money and then slapping taxes on them to offset the deficit, to pay for universal health care, to safeguard against an increase in Chinese defense spending, to bail out the Detroit auto industry, anything they feel like, none of which requires research, grant money or handing the burden of justification to people and organizations outside their direct control. There are far simpler and more broadly appealing pretexts than a climate change bogeyman, wherein the hypothetical insane government(s) have picked something that goes down as well as a tax to fund abortions.

When people posit the reverse, that giant, polluting corporations have enormous incentive to muddle the climate change argument, it's a much more direct line of argument.

I'll forgo trading insults because it would be too easy.

1. You cited a bunch of spending actions as examples of things .gov does because it can, not tax actions.

2. They haven't raised taxes at a federal level (all the things you cited are federal) because they apparently can't (as of now).

3. James Lovelock, whom I cited maybe even as you were typing doesn't need money from .gov or corporate folks.

Since your argument doesn't even appear valid on it's face I'll just sit here confidently in a philosophical corner with James Lovelock.

I'm done here- don't take to the streets kids or you'll get run over.

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