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I also just had a dear friend of mine diagnosed with cancer a few weeks ago. Last Monday he found out that it was "much worse than they thought" and the next day he had a massive heart attack and that was that. Beats the fuck out of being slowly eaten up with cancer,
Personally I would never do chem/rad. EVER. Fuck cancer, when I get diagnosed it's party time till death. At least then I had a better life than whatever would come with and after chem/rad. Live just ain't worth living when it's filled with suffering and illness. Because that's what chem/rad "therapy" gets you unless you are very lucky.
DNForever wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 22:02:How is that not negligent homicide at least?
No malicious intent, no intent to kill, no real motive, no homicide happening, a parents right to choose the course of care for their minor child, no guarantee that mainstream care will produce a better outcome, no homicide, no homicide, and did I mention no homicide?
"(a) (1) A person commits negligent homicide if he or she negligently causes the death of another person, not constituting murder or manslaughter...
Negligent homicide is the killing of another person through gross negligence or without malice... It is characterized as a death caused by conduct that grossly deviated from ordinary care.
How is that not negligent homicide at least?
Cutter wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 20:11:nin wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 19:58:
My sister's husband at all of 29 is in chemo today.
Damn. I'm very sorry to hear that, Cutter. I truly hope things get better.
Yeah, me too. He's a great guy but the cancer just doesn't want to seem to let him go Everytime we think we've got it licked something else crops up. It makes me angry more than anything else.
nin wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 19:58:
My sister's husband at all of 29 is in chemo today.
Damn. I'm very sorry to hear that, Cutter. I truly hope things get better.
My sister's husband at all of 29 is in chemo today.
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 18:58:Cutter wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 18:36:I hope you're joking. 30 years ago my grandfather would have been dead from the bladder cancer he had. 20 years ago he would have had a slim chance of survival. 15 years ago, he was one of the few given an experimental Interferon-a treatment along with low-dose chemo. He was clear and free from that. 4 years ago he died from Cancer though it was due to melanoma which had spread into the lymph system and literally ate the bone structure of his spine away while spreading through his body.
Spot on. If it wasn't this it would be something else. And how is it hokum exactly? The Cancer society is hokum. Heaven knows how many billions they've raised over the decades with almost virtually no improvement. Even Harvard medical school said cancer will be uncurable for a long, long time to come, if ever.
Sorry there's been advancement's and a lot of them. What would have killed you 20 years ago, you have a pretty good survival chance of today.
Verno wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 15:55:Creston wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 15:30:Mine's not pulling anything. Did you get the beta patch?
DLing it now.
I hope it doesn't break too many mods. I was just getting ready to start a new playthrough...
Creston
I've been playing with it for a few weeks, SKSE is already updated and most things have been dandy. I think Dance of Death wasn't updated yet but that was the only mod I cared about with any compatibility problems.
Cutter wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 18:36:I hope you're joking. 30 years ago my grandfather would have been dead from the bladder cancer he had. 20 years ago he would have had a slim chance of survival. 15 years ago, he was one of the few given an experimental Interferon-a treatment along with low-dose chemo. He was clear and free from that. 4 years ago he died from Cancer though it was due to melanoma which had spread into the lymph system and literally ate the bone structure of his spine away while spreading through his body.
Spot on. If it wasn't this it would be something else. And how is it hokum exactly? The Cancer society is hokum. Heaven knows how many billions they've raised over the decades with almost virtually no improvement. Even Harvard medical school said cancer will be uncurable for a long, long time to come, if ever.
Cabezone wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 15:04:
Most men eventually develop prostate cancer. At his age, with it also being stage one slow growing, it's unlikely to doctors would do much of anything anyway.
Mr. Tact wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 14:26:
My spin on Tommy Chong is he beat the odds living to 74. It is all gravy now.
eRe4s3r wrote on Jun 11, 2012, 14:54:I really don't know where you live but it doesn't sound like a first world/industrialized country. You clearly don't live in the USA, becasue you would recognize the words "Child Endangerment" and know it's a Felony. There are currently many parent(s) behind bars for denying care to their childeren. At least in my memory, first recall it being a problem for christian scientists, now days scienctoligists and any extreme religion.
What a fucked up world it'd be if the gov or strangers could dictate you what is a life worth living and what not. Leave the parents to their decision as it is not your business to meddle in.
And while in the special case of child-cancer I would tend to agree that survival should be prioritized, in this world we don't have the right to overrule parental decisions on this kind of issue....