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27. Re: Out of the Blue May 12, 2012, 01:42 |RaptoR|
sauron wrote on May 11, 2012, 21:03:
Cutter wrote on May 11, 2012, 15:42:
Silicon Avatar wrote on May 11, 2012, 14:49:
The point is that when our most educated people aren't getting work it discourages people to get more education overall. That's not good. Filling up trade schools with overqualified people isn't going to help the economy or the country overall.

You want the smartest people out exercising their talents in your country, not spraying lawns and fitting pipes - or wandering off to other countries where they are paid for their knowledge.

You could replace the lady in the article with any number of PhDs in hard sciences who can't find jobs right now. I know one personally.

Well they should be spraying lawns and fitting pipes if that's where the money is. We live in an overpopulated world that's only getting worse. You've got a slew of Asian countries churning out MAs and PhDs like they're going out of style, so how do you compete with it? You don't because even for them there are limited roles for all those various degrees. Having a degree does not, nor should it, guarentee you a job in your field of choice. Like everything else in life, you need to earn it, and that means more than a degree.

Meanwhile where we actually need people - trades, agriculture, etc. - people aren't going. They'd rather sit around unemployed feeling entitled and angry at the system. I know plenty of tradesmen making 100K+ a year and they're not killing themselves doing it either. And lastly, people shouldn't be having kids unless they know they can support them. What I see these people as are wholly selfish and irresponsible. And then they wonder why they end up where they are.

No offense, and I generally enjoy your contributions to the Blues community, but you're coming off as kind of strident on this and there are several long posts which are rather aggressive.

Do you have a degree? If so, why the hostility?

The entitlement that degree holders have is insane. I agree with sentiments in this thread that college doesn't prepare people for working in the real world. My own experience (as someone who does technical interviews as one aspect of my job) is that people with a degree look down on those without, generally lack the skills required, and demand a higher salary.

It boils down to entitlement.

The lady in the article has a Ph D in medieval history. I mean, come on. What the fuck did you expect? After 100k and 10 years of school did you not once think what you were going to do post-graduation? Did you ever consider return on your investment?

There was a huge debate over dinner a few nights ago. We're all late 20's/early 30's, and there are two people unemployed. They both hold liberal arts degrees. They complain about lack of opportunity and how their degree is worthless... and I always bite my tongue and try to sympathize, but it gets difficult. Why the fuck did you go after a degree with no professional future if you have the expectation that the degree will be your meal ticket?

One more thing: sending 18 year olds off to college and expecting them to make an informed decision on what they want to do for the rest of their lives is flawed.
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