Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL

[Apr 17, 2012, 10:07 am ET] - Share - Viewing Comments

Since Microsoft plans to include Xbox LIVE functionality in Windows 8, Neogamr approached them asking if this meant a possible end to the Games for Windows LIVE service, since there is some obvious overlap between the two. The reply was no, offering the perspective that Age of Empires Online and "Microsoft Flight" are targeted at "the core PC gamer." Here's word:

Answer is no, Microsoft continues to support the Games for Windows platform, but we are making new investments in Metro style games. For the core PC gamer we launched “Age of Empires Online” last year and “Microsoft Flight” on February 29.

When it comes to the living room, Xbox 360 was the number one selling connected TV device in 2011 and we have 40 million Xbox LIVE members. We are committed to delivering extraordinary entertainment experiences across devices in a uniquely connected way. Xbox LIVE on Windows 8 is a milestone in that journey. With the Windows 8 Consumer Preview, you’ll get a taste of some of the features we’re bringing with Xbox on Windows, but we’ll have more to share later this year as we get closer to launch.

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Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL

Apr 17, 2012, 20:33

Orogogus

nin wrote on Apr 17, 2012, 19:42: I'm not sure if Blue is saving it for tomorrow or decided against posting it, but according to this: "On the matter of GFWL, just shy of 20,000 people have now signed a new petition asking for the bloated horror’s removal from the PC version. Nacom told VG247 that GFWL’s inclusion was “still to be decided”, so perhaps there is yet hope they’ll opt for something else." So keep bitching, people! I saw that. It's kind of a shitty petition, unfortunately. "Slap in the face" is the kind of language that would make me crumple it up if it were a real letter, and they misspelled deterrent. But mostly I think suggesting that the game will be pirated if it's on GFWL but not if it's on Steam gives the impression that either the petition writers are drooling imbeciles, or else they think Namco Bandai are. Everything that's not an MMO going through an online gateway gets pirated. Suggesting otherwise just damages any attempt at useful discussion. It also fails to suggest how Steamworks is going to be cheaper than GFWL, which I think is an even bigger question for Namco than selling X number of copies. It's impossible to say for sure how much more or less a game would have sold if only they had done Y, but costs are very real. I hear that the only thing GFWL has to offer is that it makes it easier (i.e., cheaper) to port games from the 360, and given the minimal keyboard/mouse support described in the article, Namco is clearly going for the cheapest option. I also kind of think that if Namco concedes they'll have a reputation for caving in, and then they'll have to deal with petitions for every pet cause that PC players like to lug around: better KBAM support (inc. rebindings) and menus designed for PCs, FOV, completely-DRM free GOG version, support for deaf gamers, saving anywhere, simultaneous worldwide release, dedicated servers, DLC equality, a more narratively cohesive ending, LAN support, and so on, and so on. I think there was one guy here who wouldn't play games without 3D glasses support.

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	1.	Apr 17, 10:12	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	Verno
	2.	Apr 17, 10:23	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	Prez
	3.	Apr 17, 10:24	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	Beamer
	4.	Apr 17, 10:28	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	durandal
	5.	Apr 17, 10:38	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	InBlack
	7.	Apr 17, 10:42	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	nin
	6.	Apr 17, 10:42	Re: Apple's Cook Visits Valve?	007Bistromath
	8.	Apr 17, 10:48	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	MajorD
	9.	Apr 17, 10:55	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	ASeven
	12.	Apr 17, 11:13	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	Iurand
	47.	Apr 17, 18:59	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	frag.machine
	51.	Apr 17, 19:30	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	Orogogus
	52.	Apr 17, 19:42	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	nin
>>	58.	Apr 17, 20:33	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	Orogogus
	14.	Apr 17, 11:25	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	Prez
	15.	Apr 17, 11:40	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	ItBurn
	16.	Apr 17, 11:46	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	Beamer
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	24.	Apr 17, 12:57	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	MajorD
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	27.	Apr 17, 13:09	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	Verno
	29.	Apr 17, 13:25	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	MajorD
	30.	Apr 17, 13:38	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	Verno
	31.	Apr 17, 13:41	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	Beamer
	32.	Apr 17, 14:19	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	MajorD
	33.	Apr 17, 14:53	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	Beamer
	35.	Apr 17, 15:04	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	Fion
	34.	Apr 17, 15:04	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	ASeven
	36.	Apr 17, 15:05	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	nin
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	28.	Apr 17, 13:12	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	Beamer
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	45.	Apr 17, 18:48	Re: Microsoft Not Dropping GFWL	theyarecomingforyou
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