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Orogogus wrote on Apr 12, 2012, 14:47: "Nowhere did I see anyone make the abandonware argument" - Practically every single entry in that link you provided was the guy saying something to the effect of "This isn't even in print any more, so I don't know why GW is angry." Examples:
"A big shout out to the fans who supported this game all the years that GW ignored it." "Can anyone actually play these games with just a rules summary? Actually, does anyone actually play a game like this anymore at all?" "Another game long, long out of print. Why bother having the file removed?" "The sad thing is, if some of these games had been supported by the company instead of being abandoned they would have made money out of them." "This one goes back to 1980. I fail to see how I could be affecting the company with a rules summary for it." "There goes all the Battlecars stuff. My rework of this game took a long, long time to do and it's a shame I can't share it with anyone anymore. Or maybe GW is planning a re-release of this 1983 game? Yeah, right." "All my work for Man O' War is gone. In addition to the summary, I'd redone all the ship cards to a standard size and format - thanks for all your help Scott (manowarplayer), we worked hard on that project didn't we?" "Yet another long-defunct game - I spent many hours doing new reference cards for all the units for this one."
And all of those were player aids, not things that sufficient to have a playable version of the game. Thats even referenced in one of the bits you quote above "Can anyone actually play these games with just a rules summary?"
That's hardly a "well its abandoned so its ok if I replicate it" argument.
Here's an example. Game: http://boardgamegeek.com/image/15486/curse-of-the-mummys-tomb The player aid that was removed for that game: http://www.headlesshollow.com/downloads/games/CurseoftheMummysTomb_v1.pdf
Pretty sure you can't make the game based on his aid, lol.
Even that one that he says is a battlecars "rework of this game" isn't really. He redid the car sheets into a different theme, but you still need the boards and all the counters, and he didn't make them available.
As for the C&D, BGG didn't post it, and in fact can't. As alluded to by that other link I did about the army tool, emails from GW are marked that they cannot be quoted.
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