StingingVelvet wrote on Apr 12, 2012, 05:58:
ASeven wrote on Apr 11, 2012, 18:07:
No sorry, just fuck off. It won't be due to sheep like you, and yes you are the sheep here, that will lie down and take it in the ass that MY personal freedom and the freedoms of everyone around it will be taken away. And if you think that it will happen, just look at what will happen with CISPA now as the net is stirring again.
A small group abusing things IS NOT a fucking excuse to destroy freedom for all just because a tiny elitist group wants it.
You seem to have a real problem differentiating between "yay I want this to happen so bad" and "this will happen because people are abusing the system."
Before you tell me to "fuck off" again perhaps try to understand my points and not react on impulse. I'm all about seeing the whole picture, not arguing personal beliefs. If you seriously want to argue that abusing freedoms does not result in tighter regulation then okay, tell me how that's wrong, but that's my only point.
Or are you saying piracy is not abuse? 'Cause that would be fairytale horseshit.
I tend not to differentiate because in the end it all leads to the same spot, people who do nothing to stop it. But while you criticize me for reacting on impulse this reply doesn't reflect all the facts I've written in the past message. You claim to see the bigger picture and yet you still have to address the rise of the Pirate Party, for instance, or the rise of the internet to fight draconian laws. That is the bigger picture and you assume that the bigger picture is something that happens without people interfering or without sensible parties opposing this kind of shit. Your bigger picture is indeed quite biased.
Abusing freedoms results in restrictions because governments either have kneejerk reactions or corporations lobby it to become its private cops and neither of these two cases is good in any way, so if you are going to defend restrictions you pretty much are defending that freedoms should be taken away on the basis of kneejerk reactions or on the basis of corporations gaining even more power and both of them are bullshit reasons to take away freedoms of any kind. Claiming to see the big picture and not do something to stop this, guess what that makes you.
And non-commercial piracy is not abuse. Fairytale horseshit is the kind of nonsense you and others preach or are you going to say the UbiDRM is a good response to piracy? Non-commercial piracy is an unknown because, as Prez said below, some studies seem to indicate the lack of non-commercial piracy seems to hurt more than hinder the entertainment industries. Non-commercial piracy is a very complex beast and I won't consider it either an abuse or a benefit until non-biased studies exist. Until then I consider it what it really is, a very complex socio-economical phenomena that's not understood yet. Preaching corporation propaganda and crap like saying non-commercial piracy is abuse is the bullshit here. You have no proof to claim it either way, neither do I, so I stick by saying, it's a complex issue and I have no idea of how hurtful or beneficial it is.
So... in the end you keep blathering the same points without addressing the big picture since your big picture is a damn biased one and therefore rather worthless to begin with.