but it's also attributable to people who want to wait and get Mists of Pandaria, so it's not surprising.

Uh-huh...

Eh, I thought he was pretty candid and doesn't really deserve the quote snipe but whatever.

Just wait until Guild Wars 2 comes out... both games (WoW and SW:TOR) will bleed!

MUH-HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

but it's also attributable to people who want to get the fuck away from anything to do with Mists of Pandaria

...is probably more accurate!

I'm one of the few people who's still playing it actually, but yeah we've seen a dip in subs

Heheh, great jab at TOR. Also KUDOS for mentioning Skyrim, a single player game.

"though they think there are others hibernating until the release of the next WoW expansion: "

Yeah, I bet they'd like to think that. Love to see the look on their faces when they wrong and no one comes back for your Kung Fu Panda expansion.

I think WoW has had its great success, but nothing lasts forever, and with the 40 Billion Blizzard made, I won't feel bad for them if they lose %70 subscription overnight.

Moog wrote on Mar 20, 2012, 10:36:

but it's also attributable to people who want to get the fuck away from anything to do with Mists of Pandaria

...is probably more accurate!

QFT

Everyone knows that only WoW can kill itself. I quit when the new of pandaland expansion was coming out and virtually all of the depth of the game was being removed.

deqer wrote on Mar 20, 2012, 11:11:
"though they think there are others hibernating until the release of the next WoW expansion: "

Yeah, I bet they'd like to think that. Love to see the look on their faces when they wrong and no one comes back for your Kung Fu Panda expansion.

Dont worry. They will hold enough players to make a fortune, they will get new players who arent much into heavy duty raiding, more into collecting pets and achievements with some effortless gameplay mechanics.

Normally i would have resubbed beginning of the year as i have done every time after a longer absence from the game. But now it's march and i have no desire to return at all. I guess, i'm finally done with WoW

nin wrote on Mar 20, 2012, 10:28:

but it's also attributable to people who want to wait and get Mists of Pandaria, so it's not surprising.

Uh-huh...

That's true for me. I'm not paying monthly to grind raids, heroics, and dailies, but I like going through the expansions. I don't think I have ever kept up my sub between expansions. (Besides, GW2, yeah!)

wtf_man wrote on Mar 20, 2012, 10:33:
Just wait until Guild Wars 2 comes out... both games (WoW and SW:TOR) will bleed!

MUH-HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Not so sure about that. I was very pumped for Guild Wars 2 until I saw those gameplay videos. Good lord, the game looks awful! It was impossible to see what was going on during combat, everyone just stood in place and jammed the 1 key, and the art style looked like some kind of bad Korean MMO.

nin wrote on Mar 20, 2012, 10:28:

but it's also attributable to people who want to wait and get Mists of Pandaria, so it's not surprising.

Uh-huh...

Yep, it's not like there's a history of that happening over the last 6 years with all their expansions. A drop in subscribers, then a resurgence with the release of BC, then again with Wrath, then again with Cataclysm. But you must be right, he's just making it all up.

InBlack wrote on Mar 20, 2012, 10:45:

I'm one of the few people who's still playing it actually, but yeah we've seen a dip in subs

Heheh, great jab at TOR. Also KUDOS for mentioning Skyrim, a single player game.

Fairly certain he meant one of the few people (from their development team) that's still playing it. I doubt Blizzard's PR would allow anyone to make an openly derogatory comment about competition.

Teddy wrote on Mar 20, 2012, 11:54:
Yep, it's not like there's a history of that happening over the last 6 years with all their expansions. A drop in subscribers, then a resurgence with the release of BC, then again with Wrath, then again with Cataclysm. But you must be right, he's just making it all up.

Exactly. This cycle happens all the time. People do come back for expansions, and they will likely see a bump in subscriber numbers when Pandaria comes out.

Even if not, the game had a good run. It had to wind down at some point. It doesn't necessarily mean that people are leaving because Blizzard is messing up.

.....or they are losing subs because of the fruitypants panda shit coming up. I really don't get how they go from Lichking, to Cataclysm to this romper room shit.

D3 better not suck.

spindoctor wrote on Mar 20, 2012, 12:00:

Teddy wrote on Mar 20, 2012, 11:54:
Yep, it's not like there's a history of that happening over the last 6 years with all their expansions. A drop in subscribers, then a resurgence with the release of BC, then again with Wrath, then again with Cataclysm. But you must be right, he's just making it all up.

Exactly. This cycle happens all the time. People do come back for expansions, and they will likely see a bump in subscriber numbers when Pandaria comes out.

Even if not, the game had a good run. It had to wind down at some point. It doesn't necessarily mean that people are leaving because Blizzard is messing up.

It may be losing some subs, but look at EQ. It just went free to play after, what, 13 years? (Holy shit! 13 years! I remember beta testing that game. Ugh, now I feel old.)

RailWizard wrote on Mar 20, 2012, 12:10:
.....or they are losing subs because of the fruitypants panda shit coming up. I really don't get how they go from Lichking, to Cataclysm to this romper room shit.

D3 better not suck.

Because you didn't see the walrus people in Lichking? Or the crab people in Cata? Or the myriad other crazy races?

RailWizard wrote on Mar 20, 2012, 12:10:
.....or they are losing subs because of the fruitypants panda shit coming up. I really don't get how they go from Lichking, to Cataclysm to this romper room shit.

D3 better not suck.

They explained it, the reason was that they didn't want to have each expansion be darker than the previous. You can't have dark, dark, dark, really dark, etc... They're throwing in a lighter expansion to cleanse the pallet since the next two expansions will be very grim indeed.

This gives them a chance to introduce a new continent full of color and interesting dungeons and raids. I myself am looking forward to it, I could only stand a month of Cata before I quit. With the lessons they learned from Cata, Mists of Pandera should be a good expansion.

Yakubs wrote on Mar 20, 2012, 11:46:
Not so sure about that. I was very pumped for Guild Wars 2 until I saw those gameplay videos. Good lord, the game looks awful! It was impossible to see what was going on during combat, everyone just stood in place and jammed the 1 key, and the art style looked like some kind of bad Korean MMO.

Errr, what videos specifically? Maybe they're of the intro area or something? The combat has a proper projectile implementation so its supposed to be very fast and frenetic, the opposite of just sitting around pushing 1.

Verno wrote on Mar 20, 2012, 12:22:
Errr, what videos specifically? Maybe they're of the intro area or something? The combat has a proper projectile implementation so its supposed to be very fast and frenetic, the opposite of just sitting around pushing 1.

I saw the intro areas, yeah, but I tried not to judge those too much. I can't remember the site but there were a bunch of videos, including the intro area, character creation, world exploration, and then a few that took place in the instances/missions/whatever.

I watched one of the instances and the players were fighting this one monster. First of all, the mob had like a billion health. It took 60 seconds just to take one down. The whole time, there were all these spell effects going off on the mob and I literally couldn't even see the damn character model. The whole time, none of the players moved.

Believe me, I'd love to see a gameplay video that shows a different experience. I was really looking forward to this game.