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Dev wrote on Feb 13, 2012, 16:42:
Beamer wrote on Feb 13, 2012, 16:08: One guy hates combat in Skyrim and the next guy loves it. Fortunately with skyrim being highly moddable, someone can change combat to be more like they like it.
Beamer wrote on Feb 13, 2012, 16:08: Already took off? Where? How? What games can you point to that have come from any of the models you're discussing? How many Kickstarted games have been released? What? None? Quadrupling in size in a year seems like taking off to me. And lots of kickstarted games have been released.
Beamer wrote on Feb 13, 2012, 16:41: that kickstarter funding doesn't have a meaningful impact on gaming in any way. I bet many people have said the same thing about indie games in general, and steam in general. And yet, we've seen a resurgence in indie games in recent years, in no small part due to steam. Steam is a delivery platform. It makes getting indie games into people's hands much, much easier.
Kickstarter just gets funding into their hands. Usually around $6k, topping around $20-$60k. This is nice money. This can be make-or-break for many developers. I just don't see that number going significantly higher.
Steam brings up another interesting point, though. You can pay $15 for a game today and hope it comes out in 2013 and hope it's fun. Or you can wait until 2013 and buy it on Steam after seeing reviews. Or you can wait until the end of 2013 and buy it at half price. Or you can wait until early 2014 and buy it for $2 as part of a humble indie bundle. Outside of projects people really believe in, they'll wait. And it's hard to believe in lots of these kickstarter games. Here are the most funded. Look how low those numbers are. And click through - how many would you give your $15 to now? |
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Domgrief |
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Feb 12, 19:36 |
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WarpCrow |
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Feb 12, 19:50 |
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Dev |
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Feb 12, 20:04 |
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EricFate |
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Feb 12, 20:12 |
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space captain |
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Feb 12, 21:05 |
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Jerykk |
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Feb 12, 21:27 |
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wtf_man |
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Feb 12, 23:56 |
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Flatline |
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Feb 13, 02:25 |
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Dev |
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Feb 13, 02:45 |
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killer_roach |
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Feb 13, 09:03 |
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wtf_man |
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Feb 13, 10:03 |
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ASeven |
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Feb 12, 23:11 |
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Bhruic |
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Feb 12, 23:57 |
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space captain |
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Feb 13, 00:02 |
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Prez |
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Feb 13, 00:20 |
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space captain |
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Feb 12, 19:56 |
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Tumbler |
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Feb 13, 03:16 |
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Silicon Avatar |
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Feb 13, 04:30 |
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Dmitri_M |
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Feb 13, 05:12 |
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Dev |
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Feb 13, 05:21 |
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yuastnav |
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Feb 13, 05:24 |
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Dmitri_M |
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Feb 13, 07:06 |
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Dev |
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Feb 13, 07:43 |
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Beamer |
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Feb 13, 07:55 |
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Feb 13, 08:08 |
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Dev |
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Feb 13, 08:17 |
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Feb 13, 10:00 |
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ASeven |
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Feb 13, 10:08 |
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Beamer |
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Feb 13, 10:21 |
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ASeven |
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Feb 13, 12:23 |
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Beamer |
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Feb 13, 12:43 |
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Prez |
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Feb 13, 12:52 |
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ASeven |
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Feb 13, 14:13 |
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Ruffiana |
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Feb 13, 14:29 |
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Dev |
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Feb 13, 06:59 |
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Cutter |
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Feb 13, 08:19 |
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Dev |
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Feb 13, 08:25 |
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Dev |
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Feb 13, 12:52 |
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Verno |
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Feb 13, 12:55 |
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ASeven |
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Feb 13, 13:37 |
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Beamer |
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Feb 13, 14:08 |
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ASeven |
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Feb 13, 13:38 |
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Prez |
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Feb 13, 14:05 |
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ASeven |
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Feb 13, 15:51 |
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Beamer |
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Feb 13, 15:58 |
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ASeven |
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Feb 13, 14:10 |
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Sepharo |
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Feb 13, 14:11 |
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ASeven |
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Feb 13, 14:30 |
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Prez |
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Feb 13, 14:20 |
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Ruffiana |
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Feb 13, 14:34 |
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Dev |
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Feb 13, 15:46 |
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Beamer |
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Feb 13, 15:50 |
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Dev |
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Feb 13, 15:54 |
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Beamer |
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Feb 13, 16:36 |
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Dev |
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Feb 13, 16:41 |
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Beamer |
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Feb 13, 15:51 |
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ASeven |
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Feb 13, 15:55 |
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Beamer |
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Feb 13, 16:02 |
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ASeven |
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Feb 13, 16:08 |
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Beamer |
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Feb 13, 17:12 |
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ASeven |
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Feb 13, 16:42 |
Re: Op Ed |
Dev |
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Feb 13, 16:53 |
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Beamer |
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Feb 13, 16:55 |
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Dev |
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Feb 13, 17:36 |
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avianflu |
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Feb 13, 18:05 |
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Prez |
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Feb 13, 22:19 |
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Prez |
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Feb 14, 00:31 |
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Jerykk |
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Feb 14, 05:15 |
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Bhruic |
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Feb 14, 08:27 |
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Beamer |
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Feb 14, 12:48 |
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ASeven |
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Feb 15, 07:50 |
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Prez |
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Feb 14, 08:21 |
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Beamer |
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