Verno wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 11:36:
I saw a video on youtube of the IRNV nerf (PS3 somehow got it early), it looks useless now and I've never been so happy about a nerf.

Also here's some patch notes they said are coming:

Vehicles:
Increased the locking distance for Jets when locking on laser designated targets.
Increased the damage the MBT's primary weapon does to other main battle tanks.
AA Missiles should no longer kill the pilot instead of the vehicle.
Tank rounds will now instantly destroy Jets, Attack Helicopters, and Scout Helicopters.
Using flares too early will no longer distract missiles fired at long range. The missile must be approaching the vehicle in order to reliably be distracted by flares.
Attack Helicopter Guided Rockets will now only track ground targets, as originally intended.
Reduced the direct damage done by helicopter gunners vs armor.
Slightly increased the blast radius of the rounds fired by helicopter gunners vs infantry.
Vehicle weapons should now suppress correctly.
Increased the direct hit damage of the APFSDS rounds for the IFVs.
Miniguns and Helicopter Gunners now more quickly destroy parked cars.

Weapons:
Significantly increased the damage of Laser Guided Top Attack missiles.
Javelin missiles fired without laser targeting now do more damage to the side and rear of MBTs.
Slightly reduced the repair speed of the repair tool.
Fixed a problem when locking on to two nearby targets, the locking should no longer jump rapidly between multiple targets.
Reduced the total number of RPG and SMAW missiles carried from 5 to 4.
Slightly reduced the locking time of all weapons vs Laser Designated targets.
Slightly reduced the effective blast radius of the RPG and SMAW projectiles against infantry.
Reduced the recoil of the SKS rifle and slightly increased its power at close range.
Semiautomatic sniper rifles, Assault Rifles, and LMGs now have more consistent damage over long range.
Increased the close range damage maximum range of 9x39mm ammo.

Soldiers:
Increased the spawn protection time from 1sec to 2sec. The protection will still be immediately canceled as soon as the player moves or shoots.
Spawn protection will no longer be canceled by the player looking around.
Slightly increased the speed at which a player can shoot again after sprinting.

Shataan wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 11:25:
"Metro & Crossing are meat grinder/spam fests with more than 32."

Speaks the truth. I never thought I`d experience quake/Unreal Tourney in a BF game. But I have seen a ton of pure rocket/nade spamfests. And until they get the weap balance right, and the maps, we are prolly gonna see more.

Drezden wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 10:09:
Every single one of you who bought this game on 360 or PS3 instead of the PC should be hung, honestly.

64 Player, Max Graphics on PC > Sitting in front of a TV

If you bought it on a console you're missing half the experience.

Agent.X7 wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 10:19:

Drezden wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 10:09:
Every single one of you who bou

Ight this game on 360 or PS3 instead of the PC should be hung, honestly.

64 Player, Max Graphics on PC > Sitting in front of a TV

If you bought it on a console you're missing half the experience.

I love it on PC, but some of the maps are not good for 64 players. Metro & Crossing are meat grinder/spam fests with more than 32. (Actually, metro sucks for anything but rush) They needed to open up some of the other maps like they did with Caspian.

Drezden wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 10:09:
Every single one of you who bou

Ight this game on 360 or PS3 instead of the PC should be hung, honestly.

64 Player, Max Graphics on PC > Sitting in front of a TV

If you bought it on a console you're missing half the experience.

venomhed wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 07:06:
Not sure if you are implying this is a good thing. The game companies want churn n' burn, because over the long haul the server maintenance and bandwidth eat into profits. If anything they want people to buy the game, play 3-6 months, shove out a DLC or two, play another 1-6 months then kill/destroy the game to make room for the next one (In this case Bad Company 3, BF4 etc).

venomhed wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 07:06:
"Here's what will likely happen... The PC online count will remain much more steady than the dwindling console numbers. All platforms will level off after several months, but PC will remain higher than both consoles combined, and then some."

Not sure if you are implying this is a good thing. The game companies want churn n' burn, because over the long haul the server maintenance and bandwidth eat into profits. If anything they want people to buy the game, play 3-6 months, shove out a DLC or two, play another 1-6 months then kill/destroy the game to make room for the next one (In this case Bad Company 3, BF4 etc).

venomhed wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 07:06:
Wish I could say that game companies wanted and favored the PC because that pushes the industry while these 6 year old consoles keep holding out games back due to their legacy hardware. Sad times.

venomhed wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 07:06:
BF3 is a blast, even though there is zero ability for squad/team communication this severely hurting this games potential, whereas BF2 had this is spared (Waypoints, Commander etc).

Sigh....

Sepharo wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 01:47:

xXBatmanXx wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 01:44:
Sad to say I bought it on 360;....but I got it on super sale for turkey day for 5.00.

Not very impressed. Just BFBC2 2.0. Which is fine.

Play it on a PC 64 player conquest with the graphics cranked up, then take your copy of MW3 and smash it.

Kajetan wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 08:03:
This is the major difference between the PC audience and the console audience. On the consoles YOU HAVE TO sell a maximum of units in the first two or three weeks. The majority of console revenue is made in this time period, dwarfing every number from the PC platform. But in the long run ... just look at Crysis 1. Deeply dissapointing sales in the first month, over the course of a year Crysis 1 becomes one of the most sucessful PC exclusives of the entire EA history.

LittleMe wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 05:06:
Here's what will likely happen... The PC online count will remain much more steady than the dwindling console numbers. All platforms will level off after several months, but PC will remain higher than both consoles combined, and then some.

Check it again during the daylight hours and the PC counts rise to about 80,000 (that's over nine thousand!). When the game first game out, the 360 had 250k online. But that quickly dropped, showing how fickle is that audience.

ELITE wrote on Nov 30, 2011, 05:00:
Bought them both

Bf3 good game even with the console elements showing.

MW3 console piece of shit to the extreme - black ops is much better