Creston wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 12:32:avianflu wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 12:24:
it isnt clear what DRM skyrim uses -- does anyone know for sure? I ask because the Amazon listing shows nothing about requiring Steam and I'd much prefer a game not tied to logins, etc.
Oblivion was 100% DRM free -- ah those were the days.
Skyrim requires Steamworks.
Oblivion had a simple disc check.
Creston
saluk wrote on Nov 8, 2011, 02:42:
Eh, this individual one doesn't really bother me, but it sure is annoying seeing these "your account may have been hacked" notices SO OFTEN lately. Steam, EA, Sony, it's getting fricken stupid. I'm not sure if it's that crackers have just gotten smart enough, or if all these big companies just got really lax about security, but I'm tired of it and I want it to stop. Before I like, abandon the internet or something.
Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 21:40:Its also possible nothing got stolen. If the emails so far are indeed from the valve servers (the pasted headers in this thread make it seem possible), then its possible the hack just got into the mass email part of the forums, and mass emailed something with valve forum email servers, but didn't have access to the actual addresses themselves.Dev wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 21:32:Well the real question is how much got stolen. As it is, I haven't gotten spammed on my gmail account that I use for the steam forums, which is different from my steam account login. But I think a FOB would be nice at this point too.
. Email addys getting stolen is hardly something that everyone should be happy about.
Dev wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 21:32:Well the real question is how much got stolen. As it is, I haven't gotten spammed on my gmail account that I use for the steam forums, which is different from my steam account login. But I think a FOB would be nice at this point too.
. Email addys getting stolen is hardly something that everyone should be happy about.
Icewind wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 21:13:Several people (including me) already pointed out how that will help protect your steam account. But that does nothing to stop someone stealing emails or passwords from forums for instance. And this news blurb is about the FORUMS, not the steam account. Email addys getting stolen is hardly something that everyone should be happy about.
If you have Steamguard on, you can stop whining and worrying.
MxxCon wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 17:26:
Yes, there are a lot of hacks for vB, but that doesn't mean they are unpatched. If you are running the latest version of vB, you are as secure, if not more, than running your own custom software. Plus if anything, I'd expect Valve to be competent about running their service, and this hack wasn't just a simple 'exec()?' exploit.
Satoru wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 15:36:
You will note that I can send you an email that appears to be from anyone on the planet from any domain name without hacking the Steam forums at all.
Creston wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 18:23:Same. Paypal fob would be easiest, you use that for ebay, paypal, and it only costs $5 from paypal since they subsidize most of it. Its actually the one from verisign, normally costs like $30. Its a credit card shaped fob, so its easy to keep handy in your wallet. The code changes like every 15 seconds, so even if someone gets a keylogger into your system, its still nearly impossible for someone to get into your paypal account. Versign already has all the systems in place, does the fobs, has the GUI to interface with it and authenticate, so its reasonably easy for a company to just use that setup and not develop a whole expensive fob system from scratch.nin wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 18:15:
Have no idea what my steam forum password is, but I changed my account password anyway, just to be safe.
And yeah, another vote for a key fob like I have for WOW.
Yeah, seeing how I've got like 5 grand worth of games on Steam, I'd like to get a fob too.
Creston
Creston wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 18:23:
Yeah, seeing how I've got like 5 grand worth of games on Steam, I'd like to get a fob too.
Satoru wrote on Nov 7, 2011, 15:36:Only if you know my email addy, which is the point. I care more about my email leaking and having to redo that crap, than anything else. I'm not about to fall for phishing, and I have unique passwords too (separate emails and passwords for steam forums and steam login). Fortunately I use unique email forwarding for everything, so if my valve email leaked, I can change it and have it back again.
You will note that I can send you an email that appears to be from anyone on the planet from any domain name without hacking the Steam forums at all.