Thank you everyone for your feedback regarding the closing night performance at BlizzCon. While we had some other messaging worked up we were going to post, the members of band wanted to instead address it themselves:Hey guys, we read and heard all the feedback from BlizzCon this year. The Corpsegrinder bit was never intended to be taken seriously. We are sorry that we offended anyone; everything at our shows is just meant in fun. Thank you all for speaking up. We’ll definitely keep this in mind for future shows.
Our humblest apologies,
Level 90 Elite Tauren Chieftain
Bhruic wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 20:40:
Actually, it can help. In fact, it was obviously demonstrated to help in the very instance we are debating. What everyone seems to have overlooked in this little saga, is that GLAAD complained, and Cannibal Corpse apologized. That's how it works.
Bhruic wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 20:40:
Actually, it can help. In fact, it was obviously demonstrated to help in the very instance we are debating.What everyone seems to have overlooked in this little saga, is that GLAAD complained, and Cannibal Corpse apologized. That's how it works.
What behavior society accepts is determined by the members of society. It used to be acceptable to call black people offensive names. People objected to that, and now it's no longer acceptable. Does that mean no one does it? Of course not. It dosen't mean people aren't racist. But it's moved society towards a place where racism is no longer a completely tolerated behavior. And the same thing is happening with homosexuals. 20 years from now, thanks to the efforts of GLAAD, and things like the It Gets Better campaign, it will no longer be acceptable to use homosexual slurs (we're actually fairly close now, but I'm giving it some breathing room). Again, that won't mean no one does it, or no one thinks it, just that it won't be socially acceptable.
Addressing the problem and making an issue of it does solve the problem.
That it's a "fact of life" doesn't mean we shouldn't do what we can to try and diminish it as much as possible.
Actually, it can help. In fact, it was obviously demonstrated to help in the very instance we are debating. What everyone seems to have overlooked in this little saga, is that GLAAD complained, and Cannibal Corpse apologized. That's how it works.
No one should have to suffer such things, but it's a sad fact of life and human nature that they do and will
We all wish we could end the suffering wrought by evil people - any decent person would, but crying about some stupid, harmless thing some goofball said won't help one bit.
Fibrocyte wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 20:05:ventry wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:51:Fibrocyte wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:44:ventry wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:03:
Place 100,000 gay men (or women) on an island with NO access to adoption or IVF and that group of citizens will be dead and gone in around 50 years. No way to procreate you see.
This speaks volumes about what nature would have to say about homosexuality. Nothing to do with politics or religion.
However we ALL know mans disposition for fucking with nature.
Do I want homosexuals dead? NO.
Do I want homosexuals bashed? NO.
Do I believe homosexuals deserve to live their lives in peace? YES.
BUT, don't tell me it's "normal".
I've been called "white cracker", "whitey", "kangaroo shagger" etc.
Guess what? I don't give a shit.
You won't see me running around crying a river of tears.
"WHAAAAAA hate speech WHHHAAAAA"
Go to the fridge and pour yourselves a BIG glass of "get over it" juice.
A white heterosexual... your life must be hell with all the slurs thrown your way everyday. Poor feller.
Like I said:
I don't give a shit.
Do you have a comprehension disability?
You're a very angry person over this subject - perhaps a closet gay? Might I suggest you come out of the closet? You'll feel better.
Kitkoan wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 20:10:Prez wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:34:How many of them have to worry about themselves because of the fact that another gay one of them tied to lamppost, beaten, burned and killed in public only 3 days ago? And this wasn't the first or last time it will happen, just because they were gay?
Horrible things happen to blacks, whites, Asians, Hindus, to Muslims, Christians, Jews, atheists, to heterosexuals, bi-sexuals, transexuals, men, women, children, transvestites, to everybody every single day. Gays are not special. No one should have to suffer such things, but it's a sad fact of life and human nature that they do and will. We all wish we could end the suffering wrought by evil people - any decent person would, but crying about some stupid, harmless thing some goofball said won't help one bit.
And please don't try to infer that his speech can be considered "inflammatory"; that's just an insultingly stupid notion, just as it was when people suggested it about some goofy developer naming an achievement "Stupid whore" or something like that. It's childish idiocy.
And its one thing when that happens to them just because. Its something completely different when they get targeted for the single reason being what they are, and thats what makes it wrong. And ignoring the problem and shrugging your shoulders doesn't make it go away. Addressing the problem and making an issue of it does solve the problem.
It took this to get women the right to vote, to work and be treated as an equal and no longer been told that "a good wife knows her place". The same also had to happen with black people in the south whom had to worry about things being lynched in public without anyone doing anything against it. Granted you would have just shrugged your shoulders and said "Eh, shit happens." I know this because you just did it about a gay man being lynched in public and all you have to state is "it's a sad fact of life and human nature that they do and will." Guess what? People brought light to the problem of degrading others because of who they were and that treating them like that doesn't help and needs to stop. And guess what? It keeps getting better and black people don't need to keep looking over their shoulder, afraid of being lynched. Now we need to start doing the same for gay people.
ventry wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:48:Draugr wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:21:ventry wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:03:
Place 100,000 gay men (or women) on an island with NO access to adoption or IVF and that group of citizens will be dead and gone in around 50 years. No way to procreate you see.
The same thing could be said about placing 100 heterosexual men (or women) on an island. It's also a point that serves no purpose.
*sigh* Ok! For the pedantic (and those with very little active brain cells).....
Place 100,000 gay men AND women on an island with NO access to adoption or IVF and that group of citizens will be dead and gone in around 50 years. No way to procreate you see.
One or the other will have to cross over to the other side and fuck the other otherwise their dead and buried. I guess that would make them bi-sexual.
One thing I never understood.
Why do so many lesbian couples use strap-on rubber penises??
I mean sort of defeats the purpose of being a lesbian in the first place.
Prez wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:34:How many of them have to worry about themselves because of the fact that another gay one of them tied to lamppost, beaten, burned and killed in public only 3 days ago? And this wasn't the first or last time it will happen, just because they were gay?
Horrible things happen to blacks, whites, Asians, Hindus, to Muslims, Christians, Jews, atheists, to heterosexuals, bi-sexuals, transexuals, men, women, children, transvestites, to everybody every single day. Gays are not special. No one should have to suffer such things, but it's a sad fact of life and human nature that they do and will. We all wish we could end the suffering wrought by evil people - any decent person would, but crying about some stupid, harmless thing some goofball said won't help one bit.
And please don't try to infer that his speech can be considered "inflammatory"; that's just an insultingly stupid notion, just as it was when people suggested it about some goofy developer naming an achievement "Stupid whore" or something like that. It's childish idiocy.
ventry wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:51:Fibrocyte wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:44:ventry wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:03:
Place 100,000 gay men (or women) on an island with NO access to adoption or IVF and that group of citizens will be dead and gone in around 50 years. No way to procreate you see.
This speaks volumes about what nature would have to say about homosexuality. Nothing to do with politics or religion.
However we ALL know mans disposition for fucking with nature.
Do I want homosexuals dead? NO.
Do I want homosexuals bashed? NO.
Do I believe homosexuals deserve to live their lives in peace? YES.
BUT, don't tell me it's "normal".
I've been called "white cracker", "whitey", "kangaroo shagger" etc.
Guess what? I don't give a shit.
You won't see me running around crying a river of tears.
"WHAAAAAA hate speech WHHHAAAAA"
Go to the fridge and pour yourselves a BIG glass of "get over it" juice.
A white heterosexual... your life must be hell with all the slurs thrown your way everyday. Poor feller.
Like I said:
I don't give a shit.
Do you have a comprehension disability?
ventry wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:03:
Go to the fridge and pour yourselves a BIG glass of "get over it" juice.
Fibrocyte wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:44:ventry wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:03:
Place 100,000 gay men (or women) on an island with NO access to adoption or IVF and that group of citizens will be dead and gone in around 50 years. No way to procreate you see.
This speaks volumes about what nature would have to say about homosexuality. Nothing to do with politics or religion.
However we ALL know mans disposition for fucking with nature.
Do I want homosexuals dead? NO.
Do I want homosexuals bashed? NO.
Do I believe homosexuals deserve to live their lives in peace? YES.
BUT, don't tell me it's "normal".
I've been called "white cracker", "whitey", "kangaroo shagger" etc.
Guess what? I don't give a shit.
You won't see me running around crying a river of tears.
"WHAAAAAA hate speech WHHHAAAAA"
Go to the fridge and pour yourselves a BIG glass of "get over it" juice.
A white heterosexual... your life must be hell with all the slurs thrown your way everyday. Poor feller.
Draugr wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:21:ventry wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:03:
Place 100,000 gay men (or women) on an island with NO access to adoption or IVF and that group of citizens will be dead and gone in around 50 years. No way to procreate you see.
The same thing could be said about placing 100 heterosexual men (or women) on an island. It's also a point that serves no purpose.
AnointedSword wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:35:Kitkoan wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:29:AnointedSword wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:26:
Christianphobes!
This has nothing to do with religion. Please don't try to drag religion in as some kinda false-leverage to the subject at hand.
Sorry, you just dragged homosexuality into my gaming site...Now it has everything to do with Christ. Like I said, nature itself is also witness...
ventry wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:03:
Place 100,000 gay men (or women) on an island with NO access to adoption or IVF and that group of citizens will be dead and gone in around 50 years. No way to procreate you see.
This speaks volumes about what nature would have to say about homosexuality. Nothing to do with politics or religion.
However we ALL know mans disposition for fucking with nature.
Do I want homosexuals dead? NO.
Do I want homosexuals bashed? NO.
Do I believe homosexuals deserve to live their lives in peace? YES.
BUT, don't tell me it's "normal".
I've been called "white cracker", "whitey", "kangaroo shagger" etc.
Guess what? I don't give a shit.
You won't see me running around crying a river of tears.
"WHAAAAAA hate speech WHHHAAAAA"
Go to the fridge and pour yourselves a BIG glass of "get over it" juice.
Prez wrote on Oct 27, 2011, 19:34:How many of them have to worry about themselves because of the fact that another gay one of them tied to lamppost, beaten, burned and killed in public only 3 days ago? And this wasn't the first or last time it will happen, just because they were gay?
Horrible things happen to blacks, whites, Asians, Hindus, to Muslims, Christians, Jews, atheists, to heterosexuals, to everybody every single day. Gays are not special. No one should have to suffer such things, but it's a sad fact of life and human nature that they do and will. We all wish we could end the suffering wrought by evil people - any decent person would, but crying about some stupid, harmless thing some goofball said won't help one bit.
And please don't try to infer that his speech can be considered "inflammatory"; that's just an insultingly stupid notion, just as it was when people suggested it about some goofy developer naming an achievement "Stupid whore" or something.