Verno wrote on Oct 11, 2011, 09:30:Indeed, Moore's law works. That's why we would have the possibility to make a much more powerful machine. Two years ago Intel demonstrated a 48 core CPU.
Yep, idiots like to spout doomsday scenarios for entire platforms but ignore the fact that a lot of mobile chip research is applicable to other platforms as well. The concept of the PC being a monolithic desktop only appliance is what's dying more than anything else, the platform itself is evolving and is thriving right now.
Indeed, Moore's law works. That's why we would have the possibility to make a much more powerful machine. Two years ago Intel demonstrated a 48 core CPU.
yuastnav wrote on Oct 11, 2011, 04:30:
Indeed, Moore's law works. That's why we would have the possibility to make a much more powerful machine. Two years ago Intel demonstrated a 48 core CPU.
yuastnav wrote on Oct 11, 2011, 04:30:
To be fair, though, that's both a childish and a stupid saying.
yuastnav wrote on Oct 11, 2011, 04:30:
And if we resort to just parroting platitudes without any form of real discussion think about that one: "To the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe only the truth."
apeman wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 20:05:
Stallman once more demonstrates his complete lack of social skills, and in my opinion is doing the free/open source community a big disservice by being such a childish prick about this. Like the old saying goes, if you don't have anything nice to say... don't say anything at all.
^Drag0n^ wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 19:51:
Moore's law works. The A5 chip in the iPhone4S is running games equivalent to UT2004 in complexity right now.
My 35w Ion2 powered netbook runs Doom 3 faster than the rig I ran it on originally; and, in it's day, the video card alone cost almost twice as much as the entire netbook.
Beamer wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 13:17:
Steve Jobs once said Bill Gates would be a better person if he dropped acid and expanded his mind.
Now that's a goddamn hippie!
^Drag0n^ wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 19:51:
Moore's law works. The A5 chip in the iPhone4S is running games equivalent to UT2004 in complexity right now.
My 35w Ion2 powered netbook runs Doom 3 faster than the rig I ran it on originally; and, in it's day, the video card alone cost almost twice as much as the entire netbook.
space captain wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 19:57:Well I did mention (before I saw your comment):Dev wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 19:50:Beamer wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 19:02:How much longer? Always. A larger box will ALWAYS be able to have more processing power than a smaller one.
A giant box has more processing power for how much longer?
you forgot the Tardis...
apeman wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 20:05:
Stallman once more demonstrates his complete lack of social skills, and in my opinion is doing the free/open source community a big disservice by being such a childish prick about this. Like the old saying goes, if you don't have anything nice to say... don't say anything at all.
Dev wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 19:50:Beamer wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 19:02:How much longer? Always. A larger box will ALWAYS be able to have more processing power than a smaller one.
A giant box has more processing power for how much longer?
Why do you need swappable hardware? The entire device will be swappable. Why do you need scsi or a soundcard?
You're thinking about a PC still. You're holding on to that concept rather than letting it evolve.
Beamer wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 19:02:How much longer? Always. A larger box will ALWAYS be able to have more processing power than a smaller one. There's more room for power, more for cooling, more room for more CPU's (or better ones). Lets say that smartphones or tablets will get the processing power of our current mid range PC's in 3 years. Well in 3 years the current mid range PCs will ALSO be that much more powerful as well. PCs may not be as popular, they may die out more as next gen consoles hit and other devices grow in power, but PCs will still have potential to be more powerful.
A giant box has more processing power for how much longer?
^Drag0n^ wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 19:28:
I'd gladly give up my 1200w space heater of a PC for something with the same computing power that draws 4watts and is the size of half a brick of soap.
I mean, seriously?
Beamer wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 19:02:yuastnav wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 18:59:Beamer wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 18:33:UConnBBall wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 18:31:
PCs will always be around and are the work horses. The non-PC are the ease of mobile devices.
Hardly. Why have a giant box if you can have a tiny one?
Just because the PC will go away doesn't mean the monitor and keyboard will, so I don't know why your fear of writing a paper matters.
Because a giant box has more processing power. If you can have huge processing power in something small that means that you will get more if you just make that small box bigger.
If something were to replace the PC it would need to replace the PC's functions and that's not only swappable hardware but the mere ability to install a soundcard, a scsi controller, a dvb-s card and a bunch of other stuff.
A giant box has more processing power for how much longer?
Why do you need swappable hardware? The entire device will be swappable. Why do you need scsi or a soundcard?
You're thinking about a PC still. You're holding on to that concept rather than letting it evolve.
yuastnav wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 18:59:Beamer wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 18:33:UConnBBall wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 18:31:
PCs will always be around and are the work horses. The non-PC are the ease of mobile devices.
Hardly. Why have a giant box if you can have a tiny one?
Just because the PC will go away doesn't mean the monitor and keyboard will, so I don't know why your fear of writing a paper matters.
Because a giant box has more processing power. If you can have huge processing power in something small that means that you will get more if you just make that small box bigger.
If something were to replace the PC it would need to replace the PC's functions and that's not only swappable hardware but the mere ability to install a soundcard, a scsi controller, a dvb-s card and a bunch of other stuff.
Beamer wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 18:33:UConnBBall wrote on Oct 10, 2011, 18:31:
PCs will always be around and are the work horses. The non-PC are the ease of mobile devices.
Hardly. Why have a giant box if you can have a tiny one?
Just because the PC will go away doesn't mean the monitor and keyboard will, so I don't know why your fear of writing a paper matters.